Talk:Guarapo
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Guarapo/Garapa in Latin America
[edit]This page emphasizes the Brazilian link to sugar cane juice a bit too heavily. First, freshly squeezed sugar cane juice (or guarapo, as it is known in many Spanish-speaking countries), is not unique to Brazil. It is very popular in Cuba, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Colombia and the rest of the Caribbean, including many other regions with sugar cane production. One may also order it in South Florida where it is quite popular among the immigrant communities in Miami, Tampa, etc. and local sugarcane cultivation areas (Clewiston) alike. --Noopinonada 00:16, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- Not to mention asia (especially India) and the middle east. Delicious. -Etafly 00:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Back again; this page should be merged with Sugarcane juice. --Noopinonada(talk) 23:59, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Small problem: in the Canary Islands guarapo refers to palm juice, not sugar cane juice. See Palm syrup. Some disambiguation may be needed. --Una Smith (talk) 03:16, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
- I would add that in spanish-speaking Latin America, guarapo is also different from sugar cane juice. It's an alcoholic beverage, that can be made using liquid sugar cane juice, solidified sugar cane juice (panela) or pineapple. To make guarapo you need a local yeast, known as "cuncho" or "supias" in Colombia. This yeast is traded between farmers. Guarapo is used to drink while working in the fields: I've build roads in some countries of Latin America and I've shared my lot of guarapo... In the Canary Islands, "guarapo" is the name of the palm juice used to make palm syrup (this syrup is called "miel de palma" or "palm honey"), as Una Smith correctly states. My conclusion: the bit about Brazilian Garapa and Miami's Guarapo should go into sugar cane juice, as different names of the same thing, following Noopinonada suggestion. The bit about Latin American and Canary Islands' Guarapo should go into an article called Guarapo (not Garapa), which is an alcoholic beverage made of sugar cane or pinneapple juice in Latin America and the name of the juice of the Palm of Canary Islands (Phoenix canariensis) in the islands of the same name. This would make the article on Guarapo consistent with the article of the same name in the Spanish Wikipedia, btw. --ciroa
- The suggestion to have "Guarapo" as an article that stands on its own and refers specifically to the Colombian alcoholic beverage is what I like to call nationalistic editing...i.e. defining something pro-(insert one's region here) in exclusion to all other factual evidence to the contrary. I understand the pride, but it is just not fact. In some areas of Colombia guarapo might be a term for something different than juice, but in most Spanish-speaking Latin American countries guarapo is a juice and most always specifically refers to guarapo de caña, or sugarcane juice. "Miami's guarapo" isn't factually accurate because the term as used in Miami is not a regional usage of the term; it accurately reflects how the word is used in Cuba. In Puerto Rico (where I recently enjoyed about 2 freshly squeezed liters of it) guarapo specifically refers to juice (sugarcane juice is the assumption), not an alcoholic beverage, and I know for a fact I have seen/heard it used as such by Dominicans, Venezuelans AND Colombians from the sugarcane producing regions. So, the usage of it as a concoction drink seems to be in the minority. Given the fact that the word guarapo itself more or less means juice, there is no real debate. The page in Spanish is hopelessly skewed towards the minority usage and does not inform on what the average Latin American knows guarapo to be...sugar cane juice.--Noopinonada (talk) 00:31, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
- I would add that in spanish-speaking Latin America, guarapo is also different from sugar cane juice. It's an alcoholic beverage, that can be made using liquid sugar cane juice, solidified sugar cane juice (panela) or pineapple. To make guarapo you need a local yeast, known as "cuncho" or "supias" in Colombia. This yeast is traded between farmers. Guarapo is used to drink while working in the fields: I've build roads in some countries of Latin America and I've shared my lot of guarapo... In the Canary Islands, "guarapo" is the name of the palm juice used to make palm syrup (this syrup is called "miel de palma" or "palm honey"), as Una Smith correctly states. My conclusion: the bit about Brazilian Garapa and Miami's Guarapo should go into sugar cane juice, as different names of the same thing, following Noopinonada suggestion. The bit about Latin American and Canary Islands' Guarapo should go into an article called Guarapo (not Garapa), which is an alcoholic beverage made of sugar cane or pinneapple juice in Latin America and the name of the juice of the Palm of Canary Islands (Phoenix canariensis) in the islands of the same name. This would make the article on Guarapo consistent with the article of the same name in the Spanish Wikipedia, btw. --ciroa
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[edit]It would seem that this page should be moved to Guarapo, which now redirects here. This is backwards.—Anomalocaris (talk) 06:41, 13 May 2014 (UTC)