Talk:Good Design Award (Chicago Athenaeum)

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db-spam tag

Could you please explain what specifically YOU consider spam in the article. Note: I'm in no way, shape or form affiliated with either the GOOD DESIGN Awards, the Chicago Athenaeum or the European Center for Architecture, Art, Design and Urban Studies (which by the way seem to be perfectly legit non-profit organizations). I am an editor of the WikiProject:Industrial_design and we consider that putting out information on this award (as there are already thousands in Wikipedia) is a worthwhile addition to the encyclopedia. Thanks, --AlainR345^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 19:22, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you and have removed the speedy deletion tag and the hangon. Good luck on developing this article and best wishes, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 19:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

awardess list

As according to the article, 40,000 such awards have been given, including a list of firms receiving the award is pointless. Since the list is partial, including firms we have not considered notable, there sems to be no basis forthe selection of those listed Presumably it would include every major industrial firm in the world. I've removed the list. Please discuss before reinstating. DGG ( talk ) 17:03, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lawyer correspondence by IP

I have received the following message on my talk page in the German language Wikipedia:

'Correspondence regarding Good Design Award (Chicago Athenaeum) and Good Design Award (Museum of Modern Art) ==

Dear Mindbender,

My name is Sam Crocker, and I am an attorney representing The Chicago Athenaeum Museum of Architecture and Design. In late 2019, you made several major edits to the Wikipedia pages Good Design Award (Chicago Athenaeum) and Good Design Award (Museum of Modern Art), two pages associated with my client and its trademarks. While we understand you may have sought to improve upon the information available on Wikipedia, my client indicates that several of the changes you made in regard to the history of Good Design are inaccurate.

My client values the accessibility of information that Wikipedia provides in relation to its history and intellectual property, and wants to ensure that this information is accurate. As such, we ask that in the future you follow Wikipedia’s recommendation to post any major edits in the talk page associated with each of these Wikipedia entries. Furthermore, if you have any concerns about the history associated with Good Design, we request that you reach out to me or my client and we will be happy to discuss your concerns and provide historical documentation as need be.

Thank you in advance for your understanding in this matter, and for your cooperation in complying with our requests stated above.

Sincerely,

Sam Crocker

[E-Mail and phone number and IP redacted] 15:49, 3. Jun. 2020 (CEST)

I do not usually correspond with lawyers via Wikipedia talk pages, Thompson Coburn or otherwise. Anyone could be claiming to represent this or that company. Even assuming that the person using the IP is a lawyer and does indeed represent the Chicago Athenaeum, it would be surprising if the same lawyer also represents the Museum of Modern Art. Regardless, I find it astonishing that a non-Wikipedia author is admonishing me to submit changes to talk pages first. I have no intention of reaching out to the law firm or the Atheneum, presumably to get sued in turn. If anyone wants to suggst changes to this page, they should propose them here, with sources. Please note WP:COI in doing so. --Minderbinder (talk) 15:42, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note that there is no requirement to propose changes here first, particularly if a lawyer is threatening to do legal stuff if one doesn't. -Roxy the elfin dog . wooF 16:35, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These COI edits are an attempt to conflate the Athenaeum's awards with the MOMA exhibition series from the 1950ies, which would certainly provides prestige and lineage. Note the tortured language on their homepage:

For seven decades since its inception, The Chicago Athenaeum continues the organisation of the program to create an awareness about contemporary design and to honor both products and industry leaders in design and manufacturing that have chartered new directions for innovation and pushed the envelope for competitive products in the world marketplace. Good Design® was founded in Chicago in 1950 by Edgar Kaufmann, Jr., Eero Saarinen, and Charles and Ray Eames. Mort Goldsholl also created the iconic Good Design logo in 1950.

For seven decades? So the Chicago Athenaeum has awarded awards called "Good Design" since 1950? Or when does the continuation start? It seems in 1996. The same COI editor has also written the puff piece Christian Narkiewicz-Laine. --Minderbinder (talk) 16:46, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]