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Subject meets WP:PROF and has sources. Do not send back to Draft Space as this would survive AfD. Legacypac (talk) 02:24, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Legacypac Your assessment is probably correct that it would survive AfD. However, are we improving the world's knowledge by moving such a promotional draft to mainspace? Do we really need to be promoting Dr. Parmigiani's accomplishments in Wikipedia's voice? I say the answer to those questions is no. I don't think there's enough there for G11 which instead means that some editor needs to spend the time to clean this up to bring it in-line with policies. Ideally that should be the draft's creator, but if you feel strongly it should be in mainspace and they haven't then maybe it should be you. Palming it off to other editors to fix such glaring problems ("Through this world he has touched the lives of many families at high risk cancer" is probably my "favorite" problem line) is unfair and it feels to me that Onel5969's move of it back to draftspace was absolutely in the interests of the encyclopedia and well with-in policy. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 05:34, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I've trimmed the page for you, something you could have done faster than asking me to do it. I plowed through a large backlog of "promising drafts" today. If I fix everything on every page I review I'd make little progress at AfC or in Draft and userspace. Legacypac (talk) 06:02, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Legacypac: Well since I just did additional work I can now tell you that no it would not have been faster than asking you. While preserving all but one of the previous sources I have removed what looks to be direct copying and pasting of likely self-written PROMO material. This current state of the article, an improved state (and arguably not even the best state as some of the awards continue to be uncited and there remain dubious awards), is one where we are now left with an article where nearly all of the biographical details are left unsourced. If you want to go for speed with AfC given the backlog, well I can understand that desire. But if that's your goal I would suggest that if a respected editor like Onel5969 moves a an article back to draftspace, which from what I can tell he has done to a small percentage of your overall accepts, you either respect that or if you want to move it back you spend the time to properly clean-up an article. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:51, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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