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The result of the move request was: moved to Gingerbread (architecture) (closed by non-admin page mover) DannyS712 (talk) 06:58, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gingerbread house (architecture) → Gingerbread house of Haiti – Is the main topic of this article about the Haiti's Gingerbread houses (the Gingerbread houses of Haiti as referred in the first reference^[1])? If so, the article title should be changed to reflect that.

The Gingerbread house is a generic term that is used to refer to Victorian-era houses with "gingerbread" trim (detailed embellishment) in North America dated back to the 1830's.^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5]. And that is the main topic of the term "Gingerbread house" in architecture which should be the contents of the "Gingerbread house (architecture)" page.

Either we should have two articles ("Gingerbread house of Haiti", and "Gingerbread house (architecture)"), or one article called "Gingerbread house (architecture)" which talks about the architecture elements of the Gingerbread houses in North America. Then talk about the Gingerbread house of Haiti as a section.

To me, the "Gingerbread house of Haiti" should have its own article (with that title) as it has its own notability of unique Haitian architecture with the Gingerbread movement that began in 1881 as indicated in the first reference. And the "Gingerbread house (architecture)" should talk about what the generic Gingerbread houses which started in the 1830's are about. Z22 (talk) 06:06, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

^ "Preserving Haiti's Gingerbread Houses" (PDF). World Monument Fund (WMF). Archived from the original (PDF) on 20 March 2013. Retrieved 27 January 2015.
^ Gage, Marjorie E. "Gingerbread Trim: Feast your eyes on these ornate Victorian-era embellishments". This Old House Ventures. Retrieved 4 January 2020.
^ Vila, Bob. "Gingerbread House Decoration of Old and Today". Vila Media. Retrieved 4 January 2020.
^ "Gingerbread". Encyclopædia Britannica. Retrieved 4 January 2020.
^ "Gingerbread History". Lund-Hoel House Museum. Retrieved 4 January 2020.

By keeping the name as is, it misleads the readers to think that all Gingerbread houses have Haitian origin. This is contrary to page 16 of the first reference which clearly states that the Gingerbread movement in Haiti began in 1881, and the reference to the "Gingerbread house" term was by American tourists who likened them to what they had seen back home (meaning there was a pre-established term of "Gingerbread house" in the US). Z22 (talk) 06:30, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support alternate move to Gingerbread (architecture) as the proper term for it. However, the Haiti issue is an easily fixed problem with the scope of the article, which I have remedied with some tweaks and an added reference._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 23:33, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This sounds like a good approach. I have expanded the article with references so the readers understand the difference of the style in Haiti vs. in North America. Z22 (talk) 04:17, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support alternate move to Gingerbread (architecture) per last. Johnbod (talk) 14:01, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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[Haiti_Mission_Report-1] "Preserving Haiti's Gingerbread Houses" (PDF). World Monument Fund (WMF). Archived from the original (PDF) on 20 March 2013. Retrieved 27 January 2015.

[2] Gage, Marjorie E. "Gingerbread Trim: Feast your eyes on these ornate Victorian-era embellishments". This Old House Ventures. Retrieved 4 January 2020.

[3] Vila, Bob. "Gingerbread House Decoration of Old and Today". Vila Media. Retrieved 4 January 2020.

[4] "Gingerbread". Encyclopædia Britannica. Retrieved 4 January 2020.

[5] "Gingerbread History". Lund-Hoel House Museum. Retrieved 4 January 2020.

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