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A fact from Giant Drop (Six Flags Great America) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 26 November 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that 144 couples were pronounced man and wife on the Giant Drop before the cars at the top were released 205 feet (62 m) down?

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On 7 November 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Giant Drop. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by RoySmith (talk) 13:50, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Giant Drop

... that 144 couples were pronounced man and wife on the Giant Drop (pictured) before the cars at the top were released 205 feet (62 m) down? Source: Northwest Herald (via Newspapers.com)
- ALT1: ... that Giant Drop (pictured) was opposed by residents of the village of Gurnee, Illinois, because they worried it would create "intolerable" noise throughout the village? Source: Chicago Tribune (via Newspapers.com)
- ALT2: ... that the brakes on Giant Drop (pictured) were described as "landing on a humongous pillow"? Source: Chicago Tribune (via Newspapers.com)
- ALT3: ... that Giant Drop (pictured) was part of a three-phase plan for Six Flags Great America's themed section Southwest Territory? Source: Themerica
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/William Miller Beardshear

Created by Harobouri (talk). Self-nominated at 11:45, 6 November 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new and long enough and conveys the subject in a neutral manner. Hooks are interesting, sourced (assuming good faith for source behind the paywall for ALT0) and included in the article. Pic in the source is currently not included in the article, and does not capture the subject particularly well, so I would suggest either changing this to the picture included in the article or removing the pic entirely. QPQ achieved. Once the picture issue has been resolved this can be passed. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 15:55, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Sims2aholic8: Done. Harbouri: Let's talk! (This is a legitimate alternative account for Harobouri.) 19:10, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks! Happy to pass this now. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 19:15, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 7 November 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Per consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 02:16, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Giant Drop (Six Flags Great America) → Giant Drop – The page at Giant Drop is a redirect to a ride at another location with "The" added to the front of it. The name Giant Drop at Six Flags Great America is unambigious. Harobouri ^{T • C (he/him)} 01:40, 6 November 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 21:29, 20 November 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. ^Clyde!_Franklin! 21:55, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Happily888 (talk) 00:15, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Harobouri and In ictu oculi: queried move request Happily888 (talk) 00:15, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rephrasing my last sentence: The name Giant Drop is unambiguous. The ride is located at Six Flags Great America and not the one located at The Giant Drop. Harobouri ^{T • C (he/him)} 01:46, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Harobouri: The two article titles are extremely similar, so the term "Giant Drop" is still potentially ambiguous as the WP:PTOPIC may still refer to The Giant Drop, as the title or redirect of the article should be what is highly likely ... to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term. Therefore, there should be some discussion potentially focusing on which topic more readers are more likely to search for or is more notable. Happily888 (talk) 10:15, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, I think that a disambiguation could be helpful instead of the redirect because the model is also called "Giant Drop," or the pages could just be left as is. Harobouri ^{T • C (he/him)} 11:26, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Turn Giant Drop into a dab for the two rides. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:12, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I also think the best course of action here is to have a disambiguation page at Giant Drop. There are two rides with similar names, and I don't think either of them is the primary topic of the name "Giant Drop". – Epicgenius (talk) 14:17, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: According to pageviews [1], The Giant Drop has more hits than Giant Drop (Six Flags Great America), however the Six Flags ride article was created more recently and did receive more hits on one day - although it was the day this RM discussion started. From researching, The Giant Drop seems slightly more notable, having held the title of the tallest drop tower in the world for fourteen years and still being the fastest and tallest ride in the Southern hemisphere.[2][3] Happily888 (talk) 00:57, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think the disambig. for the two rides would be okay instead of moving this page into Giant Drop. -- Harobouri ^{T • C (he/him)} 14:57, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Move The Giant Drop to The Giant Drop (Dreamworld) instead. 162 etc. (talk) 00:03, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Giant Drop functions best as a disambiguation. Nether topic listed seem to the the primary topic. Xenryjake (talk) 05:54, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Giant Drop is more likely to be the primary topic due to its notability (see my comment above), so it makes more sense to keep Giant Drop as a redirect to it. Happily888 (talk) 22:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.