Talk:German conjugation

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There is a tense named Futur II in germa!! Why nobody wrote something about that?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChromobotiaMacracanthus36 (talk • contribs) 00:47, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ever since are the German verbs fahren geben regular verbs ?

fahren fuhr gefahren the middle vowel changes from a - u - a which is per se the definition of a irreglar verb

geben gab gegeben same story here e - a - e

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Perfekt

It's important to include this tense as it shows whether the verb is conjugated with haben (have) or sein (be) in the perfekt tense, ex: Ich bin gefahren (I have driven), Ich habe geliebt (I have loved),...

It should also be added because this is the main page for German conjugation, so all tenses should be mentioned to give the reader a rounded idea on the subject.

Futur II

The future perfect tense (Futur II / vollendete Zukunft) is admittedly not a common tense, but still, it would be helpful to include it for the reason stated above. This tense is conjugated as follows: Ich werde gefahren sein (I will have driven), Ich werde geliebt haben (I will have loved).

Imperativ

There should be a note (or inclusion in the tables) about the rule on the addition of pronouns to the imperative conjugation; the 2nd person (singular and plural) don't require the pronoun to be added, whereas the other two do require it. Below is an example for the verb Arbeiten (to work):

- 2nd person singular (du): Arbeite
- 1st person plural (wir): Arbeiten wir
- 2nd person plural (ihr): Arbeitet
- 2nd person formal (Sie): Arbeiten Sie

Fadibk (talk) 20:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

passive voice
- ich werde geliebt - I am loved
- ich wurde geliebt - I was loved
- ich würde geliebt - I would be loved
- ich werde geliebt werden - I shall be loved
- ich wäre geliebt worden - I would have been loved
- etc.

Martin-vogel (talk) 08:25, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Missing & misleading information

"Partizip I Praesens" & "Partizip II (Perfekt)" & "Präsens"

Why is it "Praesens" and "Präsens"? In German it's "Präsens" ("Praesens" could be a dated form though)
Why is it "(Perfekt)" (in brackets) but "Praesens" (without brackets)?
Why are German pseudo-Latin terms used? Wouldn't it be better to use English terms? Maybe translations of the English terms could be mentioned in the end (similar to Greek Civil War#List of abbreviations).

"Konditional Präsens: würde lieben &c."

There should be a note about what form "würde lieben" and "würde geliebt haben" are. Some Grammar books simple ignore it (or at least don't mention it next the usual conjugation of a verb), some put it like an own tempus (Konditional I & II), and some put it as Konjunktiv II of Futur I resp. II. The first variant can often be found in older books, and the third e.g. at [www.canoo.net/inflection/loben:V:haben?lookup=caseSensitive].

"Non-finite: Infinitiv Präsens, Infinitiv Futur I, substantivierter Infinitiv, Partizip I Präsens, Partizip II (Perfekt)"

There are also other non-finite forms.
1. Infinitiv Präteritum/Perfekt (Lat.: infinitivus praeteriti/perfecti): geliebt haben
2. Partizip Futur (Lat. participium futuri [passivi]; Germ. Mittelwort der Zukunft): zu liebend
3. Forms with "zu" (like "zu lieben") are sometimes also placed next to non-finite forms (e.g. in [books.google.de/books?id=3jJGAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA81] or at de.wiktionary but the latter doesn't count as reliable).

"Conditional I and II - Konjunktiv"

That looks like bad translation. "Konjunktiv" is conjunctive mode/mood (AKA subjunctive mode/mood), and conditional is "Konditional[is]".

"The following tables include only the active simple tenses"

That's either wrong or only partly correct (as there might be different views). Simple tenses (Germ.: einfache Zeiten; Lat.: tempora simplicia) are only praesens and imperfect. All others are compound tenses (zusammengesetzte Zeiten, tempora composita), as they are formed by the verb itself and an auxiliary verb (haben, sein, werden): Futur I like "ich werde lieben" and "Konditional Präsens" like "ich würde lieben" are compound tenses formed by a form of werden and infinitive.

-23:14, 12 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.63.226.252 (talk)

Not anderstandinh

Can not anderstant German cpnjucation 2405:204:1483:BEA0:8C1D:7E62:101A:7C63 (talk) 12:13, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]