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German Shepherd was one of the Natural sciences good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
August 10, 2008	Peer review	Reviewed
November 9, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed
January 13, 2012	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

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Variants

Why is the variant section included in this? We don't list crossbreeds and offshoots in other articles. Examples: the crossbreed Labradoodle is not mentioned in Labrador Retriever or Poodle (except in passing in the "see also" segment of poodle), nor is the breed Alaskan Klee Kai included in Alaskan husky. I do not own a copy of Hancock's book, but I'm really surprised by this. The East European Shepherd is a Russian breed whose foundational stock was German Shepherds 100 years ago.^[1] King Shepherds and Shiloh Shepherds are notably crossbreeds, although the Shiloh Shepherd is now establishing as a new breed/breed in development.^[2] And White shepherds and White Swiss Shepherds have their own page. Annwfwn (talk) 16:49, 23 November 2023 (UTC) Annwfwn (talk) 16:49, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Morris, Desmond (2001). Dogs: the ultimate dictionary of over 1,000 dog breeds. North Pomfret, VT: Trafalgar Square Publishing. pp. 446–447. ISBN 1-57076-219-8.
^ "How is a Shiloh different from a German or King shepherd?". www.shiloh-shepherd.com. Retrieved 2023-11-23.

Pituitary dwarfism

@Justlettersandnumbers the section I wrote did get a bit large but I figured it wasn't undue given the other section being 50% larger and most of that section being generic dog specific health. I have looked at it and there's some information that isn't needed such as the Weimaraner sentence and reducing some content like the stuff on genes. I did quite a detailed description as there's no page for the article to link to for further reading. I've got two solutions: first is to slightly reduce some content as I identified. The second would be to significantly reduce the content and create an article for the condition. I believe it meets notability but I am not completely sure. Some non-medical sources for notability include a book ^[1] and some news articles on dwarf German Shepherds [1] [2][3]

I'd like to hear your thoughts. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC) Traumnovelle (talk) 02:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I must apologise, Traumnovelle, I had forgotten that User:Sacristy is also you. I have no special expertise in this area, nor any clear idea how significant this topic is to this breed (compared to, say, the high incidence of dysplasia of the hip brought about by generations of misguided selective breeding for a stance that makes the unfortunate animals look deformed). Just my 2 eurocents: this is TMI for this page, where there should probably be no more than a brief mention and a blue link. Not sure that a stand-alone article is needed: at the moment Pituitary dwarfism redirects to Growth hormone deficiency, not sure if that or Hypopituitarism is the better target, but in either case it should be straightforward to start a new section for animals. Or add it to the list of dog diseases? I wouldn't worry about non-medical sources myself – the scientific material should be sufficient. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:59, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a common condition but I'd say the public interest in dwarf German Shepherds as a 'cute' thing and the fact the mutation originated in the breed with all other cases being from breeds with German Shepherd lineage makes it relevant/notable to the breed. I've reduced the paragraphs to three and the word count is more than halved now. Traumnovelle (talk) 17:17, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Walker, Joan Hustace (2011-12-15). Everything German Shepherd Book. Simon and Schuster. p. 62. ISBN 978-1-60550-920-4.

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[1] Morris, Desmond (2001). Dogs: the ultimate dictionary of over 1,000 dog breeds. North Pomfret, VT: Trafalgar Square Publishing. pp. 446–447. ISBN 1-57076-219-8.

[2] "How is a Shiloh different from a German or King shepherd?". www.shiloh-shepherd.com. Retrieved 2023-11-23.

[3] Walker, Joan Hustace (2011-12-15). Everything German Shepherd Book. Simon and Schuster. p. 62. ISBN 978-1-60550-920-4.

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