Talk:George Gilbert Scott

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Biography

There's a biography of Scott, from the 1970s, but I can't recall the author. Andy Mabbett 13:34, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's 'The Work of Sir Gilbert Scott' by David Cole (c. 1980)

St Pancras Station

This article makes the gross error that Scott designed the station. He did not. He was the architect for the Midland Grand Hotel, the red brick pile at the south end of the platforms, built some years after the Station the glass and iron overall roof abutting to the north.

Said to be based on his proposal for the Government Offices for the British Government (a legend), Scott is said to have considered it too mundane a project for a railway hotel, but the British Government had a taste for the Classical and the Midland Railway had deep pockets. Nevertheless Scott may have been dissatisfied with the outcome as the built hotel is rather less detailed than Scott's plans called for. See The Buildings of England London 4: North by Cherry B. and Pevsner N. Penguin Books, London, ISBN 0 14 071049 3, 1998.

When it ceased to be a hotel it was renamed Midland Chambers. Now a hotel again it was renamed to the St. Pancras Renaissance London Hotel, see ^[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.181.158 (talk) 04:38, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.marriott.co.uk/hotels/travel/lonpr-st-pancras-renaissance-london-hotel/

Article name

This article's name should be "Gilbert Scott (architect)" ~ *not* "George Gilbert Scott" ~ in accordance with the MOS on usual names. Unfortunately I made a mistake trying to restore it to this which I currently cannot find a way to do. Anglicanus (talk) 13:50, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've returned it to his full name to avoid any confusion with the large number of members of family that also happen to be architects. As this is the name that is used in national libraries and other resources, the MOS for usual names is not quite so clear cut, and the article seems to have coped with the name as is for a while. Warren (talk) 16:03, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See the V&A for his "usual" name, or the The Guardian or even the RIBA. Warren (talk) 16:06, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Name and style

There continues to be confusion about his correct name and style. His full name was George Gilbert Scott, but he himself preferred Gilbert, he was knighted as Sir Gilbert, and he is known to posterity as Sir Gilbert – not "often", but invariably, except in highly formal contexts, or where it's necessary to distinguish him from other similarly named members of his family.

Granted, his autobiography, Personal and Professional Recollections, was published as "by the late Sir George Gilbert Scott, R.A."; and see also his signature on the frontispiece, where he signs himself "Geo: Gilbert Scott".

However, from the account of his knighting on p. 328:

"Having made my bows, the sword was handed to the Queen. She touched both my shoulders with it, and said in a familiar gentle way 'Sir Gilbert.'" ...

"I should say that, previously, Mr. Cardwell had come out and asked me which of my names I chose to be called by, when I chose 'Gilbert.'

And from the article by Gavin Stamp in the ODNB: "Scott was knighted by Queen Victoria at Osborne House – styling himself Sir Gilbert Scott." Stamp himself refers to "Sir Gilbert Scott"; as does David Cole's authoritative study.

I'm therefore going to delete "often", and clarify his style in the body of the article. GrindtXX (talk) 01:35, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.marriott.co.uk/hotels/travel/lonpr-st-pancras-renaissance-london-hotel/

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