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A fact from George Charles Hoste appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 31 January 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that George Charles Hoste took charge of the quarter-deck guns of the frigate Spartan, defended her against a French squadron, and took the brig Sparvière as a prize?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 02:08, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The Spartan taking the Sparviere in tow

... that on 3 May 1810 George Charles Hoste took charge of the quarter-deck guns of the Spartan frigate in the Bay of Naples, defended her against a French squadron, and took the brig Sparvière as a prize? Source: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Dictionary_of_National_Biography,_1901_supplement/Hoste,_George_Charles
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shaw Loo

Created by Ficaia (talk). Self-nominated at 13:54, 17 November 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Everything checks out fully: QPQ done, new enough, definitely long enough, article sourcing seems accurate, hook is well-sourced and short enough, and hook is decently interesting (though I might have gone with something about him accidentally killing his brother). Image is a tad wanting at that size but that's subjective; no copyright concerns with the image for obvious reasons. Outstanding article, nice job. ~ Pbritti (talk) 18:54, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Ficaia and Pbritti: while public domain text is allowed in DYK articles, it doesn't count towards the 1500-byte character minimum – by my count, this article would be only at 1000B. Could that be brought higher? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 03:43, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Would adjusting the text to be not a copy-and-paste of the public domain material be acceptable? If that's insufficient, I can probably scrounge up some more details. ~ Pbritti (talk) 05:44, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Pbritti: yep, standard copyvio rules apply; if you say it in your own words, it'll count. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 06:22, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      - Thanks, Leeky. I'll ping when I've wrapped that up; hopefully Ficaia will also do a pass. Thanks for your repeated patience and thoroughness. ~ Pbritti (talk) 06:24, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        Excellent, please do :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 07:25, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ficaia: Any movement on this? If the article doesn't meet the length requirement in a week, I think we should probably close. Also, for anyone passing by, rephrasing a bunch of public-domain text already in the article is a pretty easy way to pick up a DYK credit... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 07:49, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Theleekycauldron: Pbritti and I have been working on it. I'll try and add/change some more. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 08:17, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Theleekycauldron: Ficaia did some additions and rewording in mid to late December. Do you think the changes are sufficient to pass this? 97198 (talk) 22:22, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't think so. A lot of the attempts to rephrase wind up being WP:CLOP, and most of the new additions are just citations, which don't count. I'm going to suggest that if the changes aren't made within a week, the nomination should be marked for closure. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 22:31, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Theleekycauldron: By my count, there are 1000-odd characters in the lead, also I've added about 300 characters to the body from 2 sources I added, and Pbritti has done some rephrasing. As this is very nearly ready, please don't mark it for closure. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 04:54, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ficaia: Parts of the lead throw Earwig flags as well, make sure you get those. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 22:58, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alllll righty! Looks like we've got an expansion done; Pbritti, want to do a re-review given the new content? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:06, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good (for real this time!). Hook approved and article passes. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:00, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]