Talk:General Post Office, Dublin

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Bullet holes

I seem to recall reading that these so called bullet holes are actually weathering of the stone over the years. Can anyone confirm or deny this as it seems like an urban myth? I was involved in photographing the Bank or Ireland building in College Green during its restoration in the 1970s and 1980s and some of the stone deterioration looked quite similar to that alleged to be bullet holes on the GPO. Remember that both buildings are of similar age. Comments appreciated. ww2censor 15:56, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't rule out the possibility that the holes in the Bank of Ireland in College Green are bullet holes too, as well as deterioration due to age. However, I have never heard any seriously challenge the notion that the holes in the GPO are bullet holes. It's not like it wasn't under heavy fire. Lexo 12:26, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see RashersTierney's new citation from Frommer's Ireland. I'd really like to see something better source than a travel guide, perhaps an authoritative related architectural publication or a scholarly paper. ww2censor (talk) 02:28, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GPO to become 1916 Monument

There don't seem to have been any developments in the Irish government's plans to turn the GPO into a 1916 monument. It's still a very busy working post office and I suspect that any attempt to turn it into something else would be massively unpopular. Michael McDowell, the politician who announced the plan, lost his seat in the last election and retired from politics, and the 1916 commemorations came and went last year with no changes to the GPO. I suggest that this sentence be removed. Lexo 12:38, 27 October 2007 (UTC) h —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.1.201.36 (talk) 08:22, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rewritten to update new 2008 proposals that do not suggest moving out the post office. ww2censor (talk) 13:44, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IRA wikilink

The link to the IRA is the link to the wrong IRA page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.142.204.47 (talk) 22:12, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done ww2censor (talk) 00:21, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling in Irish?

The Irish spelling of GPO is given as "Ard-Oifig an Phoist" in the lead (which is also what the Irish Wikipedia says), but the image (and caption) says "Árd-Oifig an Phuist". Why the difference in spelling? Is it due to an orthographic reform? If so, this might deserve some mention in the article. Gabbe (talk) 10:36, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The short answer is: yes. The sign pre-dates standardisation to the Caighdeán Oifigiúil (official standard) for spelling/etc in the early/mid 20th Century. Guliolopez (talk) 11:42, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image caption

Under the second image, the caption reads, "The Greek hexastyle portico of the General Post Office, completed in 1818. The Royal Coat of Arms, similar to those at King's Inns and the Irish Houses of Parliament, was removed after independence." It's not very clear whether this should mean that the coat of arms was similar to those at King's Inn and the Houses of Parliament, or if it was similarly removed. Perhaps someone who knows more about it could clarify? Ta Johnhousefriday (talk) 13:22, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: Move. Nathan Johnson (talk) 19:08, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

General Post Office (Dublin) → General Post Office, Dublin – Parentheses are used to disambig type. Comma is used to disambig place. Dublin is a place, no a type. There is only 1 GPO in Dublin. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:07, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The subject of this article is a building, not a geographic place or a settlement. Per WP:NCDAB, comma-separated disambiguation is primarily only used for geographic names. But again, the General Post Office is an office building, not a topic that would generally fall under WP:PLACE (I would also support moving most of the buildings listed on General Post Office (disambiguation) from the comma convention to the parenthesis convention as well). Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:22, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment You'll have a busy time of it. By that logic, you'll also have to change almost every article in St. Paul's Cathedral (disambiguation) and Christ Church. The list goes on....Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:30, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support. In Britain, Ireland and much of the Commonwealth, it is usual to use commas instead of parentheses in this way, for buildings as well as geographical places. Take a look at Category:Buildings and structures in Dublin (city) for common usage. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:42, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Seems to me the way we've been doing this (at least for Dublin) is with a comma - see Trinity College, Dublin and Mansion House, Dublin as examples. If the current consensus is to change, then a broader discussion with wider notification needs to take place. RashersTierney (talk) 12:02, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support. This would be an absurd request for a post office in the USA, since parentheses are virtually always used this way for American buildings, but the comma format is definitely dominant for buildings in the British Isles. Nyttend (talk) 20:15, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Really? I thought it would be the other way around! Although (if I were a particularly stupid America) I might assume General Post Office, Pennsylvania (for instance) to be a city and not a building... interesting. Per your presumably more informed !vote, I'll support. Red Slash 17:42, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - That's basically it; both on Wikipedia and in real life, "Thing, Place" isn't used much in the USA except with the meaning of "Locality, Widerplace", whether "Neighborhood, City" or "City, State". I can't remember seeing "Building, Place" except in a few cases of churches; here on Wikipedia, one of these few exceptions is Cathedral of Saints Peter and Paul, Providence, but you'll see that most of the entries in Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in the United States with disambiguation are "St. Somebody Cathedral (City, State)". Perhaps it's because we would occasionally have name conflicts otherwise; Falls Church, Virginia and Washington Court House, Ohio are some cities that come to mind, along with the pair of Sam Black Church (the church) and Sam Black Church, West Virginia (the community). Nyttend (talk) 03:49, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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'The Irish Post Office'

The opening sentence of this article refers to the GPO as the headquarters of An Post and "the Irish Post Office". I don't know what 'the Irish Post Office' refers to as it makes it sound like it's some sort of organization separate to An Post, when surely they are the same, no? I would remove but perhaps I am out of the loop here. --Jjm596 (talk) 21:25, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jjm596: Actually it did not say headquarters of An Post and "the Irish Post Office" (my emphasis). The "Irish Post Office" is an English language description of the Irish organisation's name An Post, so with your edit it reads like the two are different, so I will revert to the virtually original but with a slight refactoring. I hope you agree it is now clear. ww2censor (talk) 21:58, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake, thanks for clearing it up --Jjm596 (talk) 10:16, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Exact geographic centre of Dublin City

Like Notre Dame in Paris, the GPO is officially the geographic centre of Dublin city, with all distances between the capital and other destinations measured in relation to the building. ^[1] Culloty82 (talk) 17:41, 28 December 2022 (UTC) Culloty82 (talk) 17:41, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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^ https://www.buildingsofireland.ie/building-of-the-month/the-general-post-office-oconnell-street-dublin-1/

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