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A fact from Gayl King appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 December 2019 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Gayl King became the first female darts player to compete in the PDC World Darts Championship after the Professional Darts Corporation invited her to play in the 2001 tournament?

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:27, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Gayl King was the first woman darts player to compete in the PDC World Darts Championship when the Professional Darts Corporation invited her to play in the 2001 tournament? Source: Woman with guts shakes up beer bellies - The Times & Rattled Stoddart ends Gayl bid - BBC Sport & 2001 PDC World Darts Championship - Mastercaller

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yvonne Walker Keshick

Created by MWright96 (talk). Self-nominated at 08:17, 13 November 2019 (UTC).[reply]

Currently doing a verifiable/neutrality review for this. For the criteria article was nominated a day after creation, well over 1,500 characters, Earwig gives 2.0% for copyvio (highly unlikely) and QPQ was provided. While the hook is cited, these citations don't specify it was the 2001 edition. I suggest swapping one of the sources to indicate this, as it started in 2000 and continued onwards in 2001. If I have any more comments in regards to verifibility/neutrality, I'll write under this comment. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:51, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- @MrLinkinPark333: Added extra source. MWright96 (talk) 19:19, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - I've seen the additional source. Y

Verification issues:

Google preview has various issues with the Canadian Dart Tournaments books. Even checking with UK/Canada, the preview:
- doesn't confirm the name of the 1999 tournament that she won pairs and cricket pairs with Laurie Court was the Saskatoon Open. It only lists the winners.
- doesn't have her 1999 Manitoba Open wins.
- skips the doubles win at the 2000 London Open (only has singles)
- might skip the doubles win at the 2000 Saskatchewan Open - (I see she won a doubles event with Kristin Hanson in 2000 but not sure if it's Saskatchewan).

I see you wiped all of this. You didn't have to. I know GBooks can be a pain. But in any sense.

In terms of prose:

"In November 2000, after a play-off round of eight women players was cancelled," - Almost. The tournament was cancelled in 1999, and the Times doesn't suggest it was a play-off round. The wording currently suggests a 2000 tournament wsa cancelled, not 1999.Y
- It's fine now, but wordy (though not part of DYK). --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:51, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"as part of the organization's attempt to modernise darts by allowing women to compete in its events" - kinda. Yes, they started allowing women into their events, but the Times doesn't suggest why.
- I don't see a "vote" by the council.
  - Corrected. MWright96 (talk) 22:20, 13 November 2019 (UTC)Y[reply]
Stoddard was 29th, not 32nd according to NY TimesY
I noticed you've added her Canadian Open wins in the infobox but they're not mentioned in the article. Same with Main Event Ladies.
- Okay, almost all of it is verified except 2000 Ladies Canadian Open. Also, it'd be two times she won the Ladies Canadian Open after 2000.Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:02, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - Fixed. MWright96 (talk) 07:18, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see mention of her 1989 world masters appearance.Y
Where did you get the Darts information in the infobox?
- It came from a draft created by an IP in AFC. MWright96 (talk) 22:20, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - Okay but I don't see this verified. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:02, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    - Removed some of it because it cannot be verified. MWright96 (talk) 07:18, 14 November 2019 (UTC)Y[reply]

Close paraphrasing:

"sustained a shoulder injury and lost the endurance" - needs rewording as it's similar to the Darts World source.Y

Neutrality:

"and the crowd positively received her play" - I don't think this part is needed as it's a bit promotional.Y

Other issues that won't effect DYK but thought I should mention:

There are some grammatical issues in term of run-on sentences (Before the age of thirteenY, After a PDC World Dart,Y)
Overcitation with King accepting the invitation.
- Fixed. MWright96 (talk) 22:20, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Overall, the main issue is verificiation. While some of it might be GBooks preview issues, there are some prose tweaks that are required. I also am not sure with some of the information provided in the infobox as it's not mentioned in the article. For minor issues, there is an instance of close paraphrasing and not neutral statement that'd need to be fixed. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:34, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MrLinkinPark333: Have made several of the changes suggested. MWright96 (talk) 21:16, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Seen and ticked. Almost there. @MWright96: --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:50, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - Tick one, two comments. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:02, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@MWright96: Okay. One last question: where does the £1,500 come from? I think I read it somewhere in one of the sources, but it's not specifically connected to one of her tournaments currently. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:07, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- @MrLinkinPark333: It comes from the Darts Database source. MWright96 (talk) 18:19, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - @MWright96: Aha! I did remember reading that but wasn't sure which one. Alright you're all set to go (almost felt like a GA review lol) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:21, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    - @MrLinkinPark333: Many thanks for the review. And you're alright. Hehehe. MWright96 (talk) 19:12, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]