Talk:Gaultheria shallon

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Spelling and pronunciation - salaal

Some people spell this plant with two a's in the last syllable, in order to reflect the syllabic stress on the last syllable (saLAAL). My mother was born in 1930 in Raymond, Washington, and pronounces the last syllable so it rhymes with "pal" but I have noticed that a lot of people pronounce it that it rhymes with "all."198.177.27.22 (talk) 06:31, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

berries "actually" sepals

This article is very good, indeed berry berry good - but it contains my #1 current pet peeve of Wikipedantry:

"Its dark blue "berries" (actually swollen sepals)..."

or for an example used in countless Wikipedia articles,

"The root, which is actually a tuber/corm/crowbar..."

What does it really clarify to say that these are actually "swollen sepals" and not "berries"?

Many berries aren't true berries, especially in the heath family (for example "blueberries") - but these "non-berries" are among the most familiar berries to English speakers, and definitive of the word "berry".

What bugs me is the "actually". What I mean is, sometimes something is both a berry and a swollen sepal, both a root and a corm. Why not rewrite wiki sentences like this as "The dark blue berries would be botanically described as swollen sepals, because true berries develop entirely within the flower ovary." There, we've taught somebody something without "correcting" their use of a commonly understood English word whose meaning is known to small children.

I mean, no one walks through the woods looking for "swollen Gaultheria sepals".

Nimmolo (talk) 19:54, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Missing citation in section "Europe"

I have been reading various sources on this plant and stumbled on this book: http://books.google.lt/books?id=oRVAAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=arboretum+trees+shrubs+of+britain&hl=en&sa=X&ei=J5HWUsL1KLOI7Aa3yYHABg&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=gaultheria&f=false p. 580 confirms the article's statement in section "Europe", marked with [citation needed]. Could someone with more editing skills please correct the citation and include the book in references? thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.133.251.40 (talk) 14:03, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Distribution

The map is of “Distribution in the United States“. It shows this from shows that this shrub grows on the grows on the west coast of the US, and in Alaska. What is the strange behaviour of the plant or freak ecological phenomenon which prevents it from growing in British Columbia? Could someone come up with an accurate map of the plant’s range, one that shows it will grow just as well in a constitutional monarchy as in a republic. Humphrey Tribble (talk) 20:44, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Salal

I tried to move this page to Salal, its common name within it's range but there was a technical issue saying the name was invalid. Salal is a familiar enough plant to merit tilting the article by its common name. Always beleive in hope (talk) 04:06, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]