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Merge Proposal

It seems that Dashavatari Ganjifa is a particular version of the game, and I believe it could be merged to this article without loss. Regardless, the other page should be moved to Dashavatari Ganjifa if the merge is not agreed to. Jlittlet 02:33, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good to me, I'll do the merge. — Hex (❝?!❞) 11:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like Dashabatar Cards was created in January 24, 2018 after your merge. 72.216.186.113 (talk) 16:46, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. By the way, I restored the redlink to Albert Houtum-Schindler because he seems historically interesting and is mentioned at least once elsewhere on Wikipedia (even if it only is in a footnote). — Hex (❝?!❞) 12:07, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Split Proposal

This article has grown quite rapidly in the last few months so I propose to split it into smaller articles. Ganjifa for the deck, As-Nas for the deck and game, and Hamrang and Ekrang will get their own articles as well. One question is how Ganjapa relates to this article. Isn't it the same thing? If it is it should be merged into this article.

Another question concerns the surviving Persian Ganjifeh cards. I believe they date from the early 19th century and have suits not like the ones described in the article: lions, cattle, polo-sticks, archers, farmers, etc. Does anyone have more information about them?--Countakeshi (talk) 18:06, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're right Countakeshi. It's logical when comparing with other pages. As-Nas cards are a little different from the Ganjifa types. They should still be mentioned because it's important in terms of the history, but they could be on a separate page. Likewise for any game rules. I am not familiar with the Persian cards that you describe, with polo sticks. But you might like to look at: http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52505092p/f1.item A set of Persian 8 suited ganjifa from around 1820. and http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52505071d/f1.item The French national library in Paris (Bibliothèque Nationale) has added these images recently, I think. The article Ganjapa is basically doubling up with the Ganjifa page, but the term Ganjapa has been used to focus on the cards associated with the Odisha region of India (to the exclusion of the Persian cards, for example). So it would be nice to have input and agreement from Psubhashish who created the page in 2014 to see how to merge it. User:Carpetsnake 12 April 2015

If the Ganjapa patterns are different from other Ganjifa patterns, then it should stay as it is. As-Nas should definitely have its own page. Regarding the polo-sticks, I was referring to the cards found in the Austrian National Library: http://www.altacarta.com/deutsch/research/ZentralAsien.html --Countakeshi (talk) 14:13, 13 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Countakeshi, there is a short article in the IPCS journal about these persian playing cards from the Austrian National Library, in Volume 10, page 129-130. The article was written by the expert Rudolf Von Leyden, and his article is a paper given at the 1981 IPCS convention. He writes that the cards were noticed by Dr. Dorothea Duda. The 8 designs were grouped into an album compiled for the Turkish Sultan Murad III in Istanbul in about 1572, it is not clear who originally ordered the designs, or when. They are larger than normal playing cards (185mm high), and since they are inconsistant in width and background colours, they are thought to be a set of try-out sheets used to present ideas for the designs, rather than a final pack of cards. It is suggested that the zodiac signs may have served as inspiration for some designs, and that the cards were most likely painted in Tabriz. User:Carpetsnake 19 April 2015

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