Talk:Fuck the Tories

On 17 December 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Fuck the T*ries to Fuck the Tories. The result of the discussion was moved.

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The result was: rejected by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) 07:52, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Per WT:DYK#Fuck The T*ries (nom), there is consensus against running this nomination on DYK.

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... that the Kunts song "Fuck the Tories" is the band's third attempt to become the UK Singles Chart Christmas Number One? Source: https://www.comedy.co.uk/people/news/7089/kunt-aims-for-christmas-music-chart-with-tories-song/ https://www.officialcharts.com/artist/59240/kts/
- ALT1: ... that following two singles calling Boris Johnson a "fucking cunt", the Kunts' third UK Christmas Number One attempt is entitled "Fuck the Tories"? Source: https://www.comedy.co.uk/people/news/7089/kunt-aims-for-christmas-music-chart-with-tories-song/ https://www.officialcharts.com/artist/59240/kts/
- ALT2: ... that following two previous expletive-laden singles about Boris Johnson reached No. 5 in the UK Christmas charts, a follow-up was released attacking the entire Conservative Party? Source: https://www.comedy.co.uk/people/news/7089/kunt-aims-for-christmas-music-chart-with-tories-song/ https://www.officialcharts.com/artist/59240/kts/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Pentapus
  - Comment: For those concerned about the swearing, please remember that previous Kunts singles Boris Johnson Is a Fucking Cunt and Prince Andrew Is a Sweaty Nonce have also been DYKs.

Created by ISD (talk). Self-nominated at 14:55, 2 December 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Review Llewee (talk) 16:38, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @ISD:, my main concern here is that there isn't enough context in any of the blurbs for readers outside the UK Llewee (talk) 16:38, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A clarification could be made to the third one...
- ALT3: ... that following two previous expletive-laden singles about Boris Johnson reached No. 5 in the UK Christmas charts, a follow-up was released attacking the entire British Conservative Party?
~~A simpler version could be...~~
- ALT4: ... that as part of its series of songs attacking the UK's political leaders, the band The Kunts have released a Christmas single: "Fuck the Tories"?

Llewee (talk) 16:39, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Llewee: I'm happy with either of those alternative hooks (I personally prefer ALT4, but should there be a colon after the word "single"?) I should say that I did do a QPQ, which was Pentapus. ISD (talk) 08:29, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK, that was a mistake. I've struck through the earlier hooks and approved it. Llewee (talk) 11:33, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Llewee: Thank you. ISD (talk) 11:36, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ISD: if you'd prefer one then feel free to ~~strikethrough~~ the other. Llewee (talk) 11:45, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Llewee: OK, then I would prefer to go with ALT4, and I have struck through ALT3. Thanks. ISD (talk) 15:38, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @ISD: I think it'd add a bit more substance if we added that the band is so desperately trying to get a no. 1 christmas single :) Actually, not a bad hook for christmas day? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 13:53, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Theleekycauldron: what about "... that for their third attempt at a UK Christmas No. 1 single attacking the UK's political leaders, The Kunts released the track entitled: "Fuck the Tories"?" I should say, that personally I would prefer the hook to go out sooner than Christmas Day, as the battle for the Xmas No. 1 ends on 22nd December, with the announcement on the 23rd. ISD (talk) 18:33, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please note this article has been moved to "Fuck The Tories", so please change the hook accordingly to reflect this please. ISD (talk) 08:57, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- (Except the "The" is actually "the".) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 09:03, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
How are any of these hooks intriguing or unusual? E Eng 14:21, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
per a discussion at WT:DYK, I'm going to mark this for closure. If there's no movement on this, it should probably be closed in a day or so. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 07:37, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 17 December 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Tol (talk | contribs) @ 02:12, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fuck the T*ries → Fuck the Tories – Digital storefronts, and the few reliable sources which exist at this time, refer to the song as "Fuck The Tories", no asterisk. "Fuck the T*ries" is a stylisation. O.N.R. ^(talk) 03:45, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Old Naval Rooftops - I thought it might the case. I have no objection to moving it. ISD (talk) 06:30, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support. This type of stylization does not belong in the title. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:07, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support. It's best to go by how it's billed on the digital storefront, "Fuck the T*ries" is only the stylisation on the single cover. 2A00:23C5:4BC0:6C01:E899:D93C:50C:67F0 (talk) 16:21, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above points. Ss112 14:50, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Shwcz (talk) 00:26, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning oppose, as the stylization expurgating "Tories" while leaving "Fuck" intact appears to be intended to convey meaning. BD2412 T 16:56, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Per above, can always put "(stylised as Fuck the T*ries)" in the lead XxLuckyCxX (talk) 19:01, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support, as stylisation of song titles is not used as the title of the article. PaskaSemmen113 (talk) 19:30, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.