Talk:Fu Wuji

Fu Wuji was nominated as a History good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (November 1, 2024, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

Fu Wuji was a History good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Fu Wuji's Fuhou gujin zhu includes information on a diverse range of topics, from astrological signs to the dimensions of imperial tombs?

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Premeditated Chaos talk 22:14, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Fu Wuji's Fuhou gujin zhu includes information on everything from astrological signs to the dimensions of imperial tombs?

Source: B.J. Mansvelt Beck, "The Treatises of Later Han" pp.129-130

Reviewed:

Created by Kzyx (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Kzyx (talk) 21:11, 23 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall:

The article is okay, and the hook is interesting, the source is a book source but accepted. TheNuggeteer (talk) 11:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Unsuccessful. ¹⁴¹ Pr -_\contribs/- 13:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Fu Wuji/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Kzyx (talk · contribs) 23:22, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Praseodymium-141 (talk · contribs) 15:32, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Comments

There are no images - are there any available?
The Treatise on Administrative Geography in the Book of the Later Han quotes the Dongguan Hanji as saying "in the first year of Yongxing (153), there were 3,681 xiang (鄉) and 12,443 ting (亭)". The mention of the date implies that the quotation cannot be from Fu Wuji and Huang Jing's work. Either this quotation was never part of a Treatise of Geography, or Fu Wuji's work was brought up to date from time to time. The Siku Quanshu editors, who collected fragments of the Dongguan Hanji from various sources, assigned another quotation with an even later date to the Treatise on Geography: "In the twentieth year of Jian'an (215), Hanning Commandery was reestablished." - I don't understand how this is relevant.
There are a lot of vocabulary that are not really understandable to a casual reader: fief, terrestrial portents, tabooed.
This article is not very long - is there any more that is known about Fu Wuji?
Address the lead too short tag.

@Kzyx: Here are some comments to work on. ¹⁴¹ Pr -_\contribs/- 07:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Status query

Praseodymium-141, Kzyx, where does this review stand? There haven't been any edits to address the review; indeed, Kzyx hasn't edited DYK since the day after nominating this article, and a DYK they nominated on their most recent day of editing, June 24, has just been closed as unsuccessful after issues went unaddressed for over a month. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:48, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've just come back from vacation. I'm probably going to fail this article as there have been no edits made as you have said. ¹⁴¹ Pr -_\contribs/- 13:05, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Fu Wuji/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Kzyx (talk · contribs) 03:25, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Borsoka (talk · contribs) 05:05, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):

C. It contains no original research:

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Comments I really sorry, but the article must be quick failed for the following reasons:

it fails to introduce its subject and add a context, so readers who are not familiar with Chinese history cannot fully unerstand it
it is heavily based on more than thousand year old primary sources (nearly 1/3 of the references)
it is not illustrated at all.

I suggest the nominator should seek advice from more experienced editors who are familiar with the history of Eastern Han dynasty because I think the article is interesting. (Perhaps nominators of GAs covering this topic could assist [1].) Borsoka (talk) 05:17, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]