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A fact from Frida Kahlo Museum appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 December 2010 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that after Soviet dissident Leon Trotsky and his wife obtained political asylum in Mexico in 1937, they were accommodated in artists Diego Rivera and Frida Kahlo's "Blue House" (pictured), now a museum in Coyoacán, Mexico City?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2010/December.

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Move this article to Frida Kahlo Museum

I'm not sure how this article got started at all at this location, given that the Frida Kahlo Museum article has already existed for a day. This article has two names, with one is brackets. As per our naming conventions, we should pick one. 188.222.170.156 (talk) 01:10, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent suggestion - I have gone ahead and change the article's title. Neutrality^talk 23:03, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted edits by Leonardo DPB

I have reverted edits by Leonardo DPB to this article, which I had originally tagged with a {{tone}} tag. While presumably well-intentioned and with likely useful sources, the edits make the text of the article sound too much like a travel brochure rather than an encyclopedia article, and introduced other issues (e.g., bloating the lead). Per WP:BRD, and for the sake of not edit warring (as I have reverted twice recently), some discussion would be welcome. Thanks. --Kinu ^t/_c 22:27, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kinu It is probably a good new to let you know that I am working for The Frida Kahlo Museum in the updating of this profile. The information that I have been adding to the profile, is the result of a research by The Frida Kahlo Museum Research Department.

I hereby send the contact information of my boss:

Ximena Jordán

Proyectos y Patrocinios

Museos Frida Kahlo y Diego Rivera Anahuacalli

Cel/WhatsApp. (+521) 55 191 00 352

Correo: x.jordan@museofridakahlo.org.mx

In case of having further enquiries regarding the improvement of the information in The Frida Kahlo Museum Wikipedia English profile, you can address her to those contact details, if you wish.

On behalf of this institution, I thank you for your interest in The Frida Kahlo Museum. Leonardo DPB (talk) 01:04, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Given this information, please see WP:COI and WP:UPE. --Kinu ^t/_c 04:36, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Kinu All articles must strive for verifiable accuracy, citing reliable, authoritative sources, especially when the topic is controversial or is about a living person. Editors' personal experiences, interpretations, or opinions do not belong on Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars Leonardo DPB (talk) 23:24, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, please see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars

Please consider: All articles must strive for verifiable accuracy, citing reliable, authoritative sources

Currently, the sources are wrong and the following information is FALSE:

- ...since the 1920s, when it was the home of Salvador Novo, Octavio Paz, Mario Moreno and Dolores del Río.

- Originally, the house enclosed only three sides of this courtyard, but later the fourth side was added to enclose it entirely

- The house covers 800m2 and the central courtyard is another 400m2

- As it was built in 1904, it originally had French-style decorative features but later it was changed to the plainer façade seen today.

- The entrance hall was decorated by a mosaic in natural stone by Mardonio Magaña of the Escuela de Pintura al Aire Libre in Coyoacán

- ...and works by José María Velasco, Paul Klee, and Diego Rivera

- ...with a watercolor Diario de Frida in the center.

- ...and international visitors and friends such as Sergei Eisenstein, Nelson Rockefeller, George Gershwin

- On her bed is a painted plaster corset she was forced to wear to support her damaged spine

- Her wheelchair is drawn up to an unfinished portrait of Stalin

- ...first in 1918 when she was struck with polio

- Frida met Diego Rivera while he was painting murals at the Secretaria de Educacion Publica building and invited him to the Casa Azul to see her work.

- The redesign work on the house was done by Juan O’Gorman

- Four years after her death, in 1958, Rivera donated the house to the nation of Mexico and set up a foundation for its preservation. (actually, in 1958, Diego Rivera was DEAD)

- The first director of the museum was Carlos Pellicer with the mandate to keep the house as it was

- The work was sponsored in part by the German government, which donated 60,000 euros for the effort, and in part by the museum itself, which contributed one million pesos.

- Etc.

Please follow Wikipedia Five Pillars. We are doing so, since we are literally striving for verifiable accuracy, citing reliable and authoritative sources, which is definately noticeable in the quality of the text.

There is no conflict of interests here. The Frida Kahlo Museums DOES NOT NEED advertising and is NOT looking for any sort of advertising through Wikipedia. This effort is only to avoid students and interested people of getting absolutely missinformed, as it is happening now. If you do not agree, please be so kind and assertive to correct all the missinformation that is currently on the profile, and change it to verifiable and cited information, as Wikipedia indicates to do. Also, Wikipedia indicates: "Be open and welcoming to newcomers": this is the contrary of deleting everything a newcomer writes, moreover without proposing a better option. If you do not agree with a text, idea or information source, please write down your proposal, quoted, cited and with realiable and no invented information, as it is now.

Thank you :) Ximenili (talk) 23:35, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary, there is a clear conflict of interest here, given your affiliation with the subject of the article. Per the guideline regarding such: Editors with a COI, including paid editors, are expected to disclose it whenever they seek to change an affected article's content. Anyone editing for pay must disclose who is paying them, who the client is, and any other relevant affiliation; this is a requirement of the Wikimedia Foundation. COI editors are strongly discouraged from editing affected articles directly, and can propose changes on article talk pages instead. I have indicated my reasons for reverting the edits, mainly related to the tone of the article; please note that WP:NPOV is a policy. Likewise, I have also assumed good faith and noted here and via edit summaries that the references provided in the edits might be useful for updating the information. The "better option" is indicated the quote above, and I kindly request that you follow the process of (a) disclosing this information per the Foundation's requirements and (b) proposing any edits, with references, on this talk page, as suggested in the latter part of the quote. If any cited statements are incorrect, please provide references indicating the correct information, per WP:BURDEN; however, simply stating "the sources are wrong" is not helpful, especially when the sources given meet the threshold of reliability, e.g. INAH. Thank you. --Kinu ^t/_c 04:16, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]