Talk:Fretsaw

i was wondering what kind of intricate feature or design does a fretsaw could be use.it says in metal or wood.i hope i could learn more about this as i was wondering why is it delicate to use properly or on what type of cutting technique should be done for a fretsaw and why is it important...how does it range the saw and cutting technique between wood and metal.more info..i wanna know.it wouldnt be important to metal if its only for the wood.another thing can wiki give examples of intricate designs were a fretsaw could copy or do as a hand tool.please.this is new to me.i have seen materials reffering to different kinds of saw but i dont know the relevance of fretsaw to metal as i only knew metal saw and wood saw and how about definining intricate designs it could do...

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I think of all the unpowered and powered curve capable cutting implements, ie Jigsaw, Scrollsaw, Fretsaw, SabreSaw etc etc, everyone calls one the other. For example many people incorrectly call Scroll Saws Fretsaw - yet technically they are correct. - and the scroll saw was more commonly called a Jigsaw at one stage. Another thing to throw in the mix is that the unpowered terminology for each of the Jigsaw, Sabre Saw and Fretsaw are all distinct, yet are again mixed and matched all over the shot. - I think making room for the fact that each should be titled in thier most absolute form, eg Unpowered Sabre Saw and Powered Sabre saw, with a disambiguity page directing the user to either which when they link from Sabre saw.Erlyrisa 08:36, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ERLYRISA says: Wondering if there should be anymore info on what came first - the Fretsaw or the Coping saw, and maybe some history on the words themselves.

I presume the fretsaw came first (There are many ancient examples of it, all the way back to Egyptian Times) and the coping saw is a modern product fashioned from metal and smaller (probably firstly designed small as a practical handymans tool instead of a niche fretworkers tool).

History of the words, I have some Idea of,

Coping - german, De Copier (spelling is probably wrong) - meaning, I think to copy.

Fretsaw - from fretwork, to Fret - french and or nordic influence.

As far as I can remember, usage varies on country and region. I'm pretty sure in England it used to be called a Fretsaw, and in the USA a coping saw. --ArmadilloFromHell 05:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No - as usual you americans get lazy with your naming conventions (no harm intended) - I just had a long argument about Reciprocating Saw - where everyone seems to consider it a particular style of saw and not just the description of a mechanical actuation upon a Saw Blade., the same is happening here - nearly no-one even now know what a fretsaw is - mainly because your local hardware store only sells coping saws. -The fretsaw is an older tool, before the modern coping saw, the only reason the coping saw has it's name today in the anglo world is because the Germans mass manufactured them and Called them as such. (of course citation needed), the Fretsaw on the other hand was made usually by the carpenter themselves (including the blade) - I had a picture of one a while ago - google antique Fretsaw - you'll know what I mean, I just can't use a Picture -coz of copyright, and I don't have a fretsaw. (Although you can still buy fretsaws today - and they are distinct in that they have a larger A frame vs the coping saw)

Jesus

WTF is the picture of Jesus doing on this page?? If someone put it there intentionally he / she should give at least a reason (although 'this crucifix was made with a fretsaw' does sound a little strange). I just think it should be deleted ASAP. 81.246.93.2 20:36, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Musicains Tools (I think I editied that paragraph refering to the "fretsaw" by those adamant to refer to thier fine hacksaws/pullsaws/etc as a fretsaw just becasue it's cutting guitar frets. I have made another edit, but sadly I don't think I can compete with the mutltitude of avid musicians out there. Erlyrisa (talk) 16:12, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am about to snip that paragraph on the etymology anyway. It is called a fretsaw because it is used for doing fretwork. I've done some quick research and found some fairly incontrovertible evidence that it has nothing to do with guitars. I've also added a picture of a real fretsaw so hopefully the musicians won't remain confused for too long. CrispMuncher (talk) 20:51, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bow saw comparison

Is this comparison really worth making? They are two completely different patterns of tools. Sure, they are both saws and they both have bows but the similarities end there. By that logical we could just as easily compare the fretsaw to a hacksaw despite the fact they look completely different and have radically different intended uses. CrispMuncher (talk) 21:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

blade orientation

Does a fret saw cut on the pull like a coping saw, with the teeth pointing to the handle? Or does a fret saw cut on the push like a hacksaw? 216.191.39.102 (talk) 00:10, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's a frame saw, so the frame is rigid but the forces on the blade itself have to be tension, not compression. Fret saws are used though with the blade vertical and pulling the workpiece down onto a horizontal table, with the user watching from above. So they're always pointing towards the handle, downwards, and are pulled. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:32, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]