Talk:Frederica Planta

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Review: May 19, 2023. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Frederica Planta appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 December 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Frederica Planta designed cards to teach the children of George III and Queen Charlotte the history of England?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 03:41, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Frederica Planta designed a card game to teach the children of George III and Queen Charlotte the history of England? Source: Gribling, Barbara (2020). "Playing with the past: child consumers, pedagogy and British history games, c. 1780–1850". [1]
- ALT1: ... that when Frederica Planta, English teacher to the children of George III and Queen Charlotte, died in 1778, her sister succeeded her at court? Source: [2] p. 50
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/3D Microcomputers
- Comment: Better hook suggestions always welcome. Would it be interesting that she was from a Swiss immigrant family?

Created by Kusma (talk). Self-nominated at 17:36, 30 November 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Article created 29 November. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hooks are interesting and sourced. I like the primary hook. QPQ is done. Looks ready to go! Thriley (talk) 04:33, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 13:35, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:35, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The only image is appropriately licenced; Earwig finds no issues. Sources are reliable.

"was supposed to teach the children first English": according to our articles on George III and George IV, the native language of both was English, so this is surprising to see. Their mother presumably spoke German by preference; perhaps that means the children needed additional exposure to English? They would have had other carers than their mother, but perhaps those were German too? Or is this English in the same sense that we teach English in English-speaking schools -- not as a foreign language?
Looked at the source, which quotes a letter in French that says "lire d'abord l'Anglais...", "to read at first English", no idea why I omitted "to read". Now fixed.

That's the only question I have. Spotchecks (footnote numbers refer to this version):

FN 14 cites "The royal family had first tried to hire her older sister Elizabeth Planta, but she had declined as she preferred to continue to work for Mary Eleanor Bowes." Verified.
FN 23 cites "for food, tea, chocolate, coffee and sugar": verified.
FN 5 cites "Planta's first name Frederica, atypical for her mother's Val Bregaglia region of origin and more typical of Brandenburg, may have been chosen in honour of her father's employer and family." I don't have access to this; can you quote the supporting text?
Sure. "Sie [erschien 1745 im pietistischen Verlag J. J. Enderes in Schwabach und] ist [verfaßt von Conrad Stefan Meintel und] gewidmet Christiano Frederico Carlo Alexandro, principe hereditario di Brandenburg-Anspacco, vermutlich einem der nachmaligen Zöglinge des Andreas Planta, dem zu Ehren vielleicht auch dessen viertes Kind im Jahre 1750 den brandenburgischen, so gar nicht bergellischen Vornamen Friderica erhielt." so in my own rough translation "It [not so important what it is] is dedicated to Christian Frederick Carl Alexander, hereditary prince of Brandenburg-Ansbach, who probably later was a student of Andreas Planta, and in whose honour perhaps also his fourth child received the Brandenburgish, very much not Val Bregaglia-ish name Friderica."

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 14:26, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for reviewing two Plantas, Mike Christie! See comments above. —Kusma (talk) 15:45, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good; passing. An interesting pair of articles. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 16:15, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]