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A fact from Fred the Head appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 23 October 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that a man's body, found wearing only a woman's wedding ring and a pair of socks in 1971, is the oldest unsolved missing persons case in Staffordshire, England?

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The result was: promoted by Hilst talk 11:33, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that a man's body, found wearing only a woman's wedding ring and a pair of socks in 1971, is the oldest missing persons case in Staffordshire, England?

Source: "One such case is that of Fred the Head - found dumped in Burton's Washlands wearing a woman's wedding ring. He remains Staffordshire's oldest missing person case and unsolved murder - dating back 48 years ...Fred was found in a shallow grave, off Newton Road, Winshill , in March 1971 ... it is widely assumed he was murdered, having been found wearing only a pair of socks and the wedding ring." from: Kreft, Helen (27 July 2019). "Police release shocking mortuary pictures of dead people in a bid to name them". Derbyshire Live. Retrieved 26 July 2024.

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Clare embroidery

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 888 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 17:33, 9 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:13, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good to go. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:18, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dumelow: The article says that it's the oldest unsolved missing persons case in Staffordshire (emphasis mine). I don't think the hook should drop the word "unsolved", since oldest missing persons case could also mean "the first ever case". jlwoodwa (talk) 03:01, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi jlwoodwa, yes I think you are right that it should be as I had it in the article and not necessarily directly as per the source wording. I've added "unsolved" to ALT1 below. BeanieFan11, if you could take a quick look and confirm you are happy - Dumelow (talk) 05:54, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that a man's body, found wearing only a woman's wedding ring and a pair of socks in 1971, is the oldest unsolved missing persons case in Staffordshire, England?
- That's fine. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:59, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]