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This page is completely inaccurate.

Who an earth thinks 'footy' is an Australian term? This is utterly preposterous.

“The use of the word has spread over the decades, with its adoption by the supporters of other football codes.”

Complete nonsense. Footy, footer and soccer are all contractions that originated at pretty much the same time. In the UK footy and footie are far more common than soccer.

This page was written by some imbecile in Australia.

Why are the Aussies allowed to continually poison wikipedia? --210.212.95.103 16:22, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm Aussie myself and I absolutely agree with you. This pointless article should simply be a re-direct page to football. The word 'footy' does not require an explanation article, for the same reason that words like 'phone' or 'bike' don't.--Jeff79 01:00, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As a nickname, it has probably been used as equally long in England as it has in Australia, remembering the fact that most of Australia's football heritage comes from the 2% of Englanders and 3% of other Britons that immigrated here in the 1850s(hence why AFL resembles pre-soccer consensus football rules and rugby football is so dominant). However as an official term to describe football, it has been used in documented cases in Australia for a long time. Its use is probably more prevalent than the term football, which can b seen by media sites that are called "real footy". As for rugby league, footy has been the default term over football for as long as anyone here can remember. In England the term is "footie" and it is only recently that I have seen that use change to "footy" in media such as the BBC. If you have examples similar to the ones given, than document them, but I do not think that they exist as "footy", and if they exist as "footie", it is in far less commen usage than "footy" has been used in Australia. If you ue the term footy alot, it is probably something you picked up from that Aussie backpacker working at the pub, that you hate so much.

Just compare the pair, the Uk googled term "footy"[1], comes up with Australian matches very quickly. The Australia googled term "footy" is just knee deep the Australian term [2].

trying to head off an edit war

rightyo...

the game with 11 people and a round ball is known on here as football (soccer). it's the name of the article, it's been determined by consensus, everyone knows what is meant when we say it. there's no good reason to rename everything as soccer - it's a nickname, and it's not called that universally. we don't follow the supposed naming conventions of people in NSW in wikipedia, we follow wikipedia's names. when you have to put a rename in the link, then it's obvious that you shouldn't bother.

the other edits i've made are minor and don't conflict at all with the point of the article, they're clarifications of it. i think they warrant keeping, though obviously i'm just one person.

the use of 'mostly' is to reflect the point made below - that some people use 'footy' to refer to football (soccer).

also, people have called the round ball game footy here since before the FFA changed its name. Dibo|Talk|Contribs 08:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some Reason here re: NSW/QLD use of the term

As a Sydneysider, from personal experience I had hardly heard the term "footy" until some friends from down south would consistently use the word. It didn't start catching on at least until the 1990s. Before this we used the words "league" (or just "football"), "union" or "soccer" for the various codes. It has become a widely used word here now though and people are very intense about their ownership of it, such that many Sydney people will claim that it was always known as footy and many will create a lot of spin with regards to its origins. It does sound like a very meathead occer word, hence why a lot of leagies are keen to adopt it as their own. As for soccer, I know a few Brits who spell it footie, but few use the version with the "y". Just my 2 cents. --Spewmaster 03:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is simply an abbreviation of the word "football", as in the examples "backyard footy" or "footy show" which are both used in reference to more than one code of football. End of discussion.--Jeff79 01:04, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is absolute nonsense coming from the person that created a page of absolute nonsense earlier attempting to attack football. --144.132.216.253 19:25, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The word 'footy' is (literally, figuratively, whatever you want!) synonymous with the word 'football'. Anyone disagree? This page needs to simply re-direct to Football in my opinion.--Jeff79 19:29, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

could easily be made a subsection of football - i think the word and its history is interesting, but you're essentially correct. Dibo ^{T | C} 01:00, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So, consensus to re-direct then?--Jeff79 02:30, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

yeah, cool. Dibo ^{T | C} 02:42, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

btw - on the edit i just made - as the term was used earlier in the uk, the origins section made no sense (the use of 'footy' to describe aussie rules clearly didn't filter backwards in time to be used to refer to football (soccer), so i ditched it. and for the same reason, it's not 'australian english'. Dibo ^{T | C} 03:06, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't actually pay much attention to the edits on this article since I figured it'd be re-directed anyway, which I've now done. Also, so nothing is lost and for people's convenience, I pasted the content that was on this article below.--Jeff79 03:32, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Content that was on the 'Footy' article

The term "footy" is an abbreviation of the word "football" and is mostly used in reference to Australia's two most popular codes thereof; Australian rules and rugby league. Usage is widespread. Examples of its use in popular culture include the Channel 9 variety show covering those two codes of football entitled The Footy Show, other examples include Footy Legends (2006). It is also used to refer to football (soccer), primarily in the UK, and the term appears to have originated there.

=== History of term ===
An early use of the term "footy" is seen in the table football (soccer) game Newfooty, first produced in the UK in 1929. [http://www.peter-upton.co.uk/newfooty.htm]

In Australian use, the origins of the term date back as far as the 1940s, however it first appeared in the Macquarie Australian English Dictionary to describe Australian rules football in the 1960s.{{Fact|date=February 2007}} By the 1970s, "footy" had become a widely used term in Victoria, and the word appears in the popular lyrics of Up There Cazaly ("The footy wins hands down" - 1979).

===See also===

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff79 (talk • contribs) 03:26, 11 May 2007 It has since been reformatted --Jerzy•t 08:41, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]