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Think that the footplate is not the same as an end foot - it is not a cellular projection ? Iztwoz (talk) 09:23, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Iztwoz, I apologise that I haven't seen your message earlier. Indeed, Dorland defines footplate as the base of stapes, but numerous PMID articles and even Gray's Anatomy use the term to describe endfeet of Müller cells, astrocytes, and even microglia. I'll send a buch of links below: PecMo (talk) 12:23, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here are some links, Iztwoz. For example, (P:704) of Gray's Anatomy 41st ed states, "On the inner surface of the retina, the main Müller cell process expands into a terminal foot plate that contacts those of neighbouring glial cells and forms part of the internal limiting membrane".
You can also search the term "Footplate" in these articles: (1), (2) and (3). The term footplate can be used as a cellular extension, and a quick Google Scholar search will make you assured. PecMo (talk) 12:49, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
PecMo The first sentence states that they are cellular extensions which the base of stapes is not so the Dorland's ref needs to be removed.--Iztwoz (talk) 13:06, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Iztwoz, Do you suggest using another reference then or do you want to remove that piece of information altogether?
What I understood is that the term footplate indeed commonly refers to the base of stapes; however, it may also be synonymous with foot process, especially if the context is clear (I already sent you a bunch of links).
If you wish to remove it though, it's not the big of a deal; however, we may need to modify the rest of the section in order not to leave empty spaces, useless commas and so on. PecMo (talk) 13:38, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
PecMo I have just pointed out that Dorlands ref is unsuitable, inappropriate for citing for base of stapes. You can of course use an appropriate ref.--Iztwoz (talk) 14:14, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Iztwoz, I added one of the references (this one)[1] that uses the word footplate with astrocytes; it's now:
Despite not being exclusive,[2][1] ..... and the term footplate commonly refers to the base of stapes.[3]
This way Dorland states that the term footplate is associated with the base of stapes; however, it can also be used as foot process if the context is clear like the reference I provided on the page,[1] and the other links I sent here.
I agree with you that Dorland alone doesn't state that footplate is more common one way or another, but in conjunction with another link, it more or less does like a reference combo?! PecMo (talk) 16:19, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also re-apologize for reverting your edit without checking the talk page. PecMo (talk) 16:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dorland's does not support the use of footplate as a cellular extension it only supports it as a synonym for base of stapes - there is no place for it as a ref for foot process. There are other sources that use footplate as a cellular extension.--Iztwoz (talk) 16:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC) Footplate seems to have a specific meaning in anatomy as the base of the stapes.[4]--Iztwoz (talk) 16:43, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ a b c Schmithorst, VJ; Vannest, J; Lee, G; Hernandez-Garcia, L; Plante, E; Rajagopal, A; Holland, SK; CMIND Authorship, Consortium (January 2015). "Evidence that neurovascular coupling underlying the BOLD effect increases with age during childhood". Human brain mapping. 36 (1): 1–15. doi:10.1002/hbm.22608. PMC 6869617. PMID 25137219. A conceivable alternative explanation for changing neuronal–astrocyte coupling with age is a changing number of "footplate" astrocytic processes contacting capillaries, as has been seen in mood disorders.
  2. ^ Ikeda, T; Nakamura, K; Sato, T; Kida, T; Oku, H (9 February 2021). "Involvement of Anoikis in Dissociated Optic Nerve Fiber Layer Appearance". International journal of molecular sciences. 22 (4). doi:10.3390/ijms22041724. PMID 33572210. Astrocytes in the brain project foot processes (i.e., astrocytic endfeet) that envelop blood vessels, neurons, and the pia mater to form the glia limitans.
  3. ^ Dorland's illustrated medical dictionary (33rd ed.). Philadelphia, PA: Elsevier Saunders. 2020. ISBN 9781455756438.
  4. ^ "Medical Definition of FOOTPLATE". www.merriam-webster.com.