Talk:Fly, Eagles Fly

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Why is a section about the parody needed? seems like a waste —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.101.153.183 (talk) 07:02, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I removed it as unsourced trivia. --Tom (talk) 00:21, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article improvement

Can sources be added going forward for any additional material? I will try to work on this since there is a low level edit war currently. Thanks, --Tom (talk) 17:41, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have reverted this again. Is there any room to work this out?--Tom (talk) 15:24, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Update Article with Accurate Information and Changes Article Name

I would like to edit the Fly, Eagles Fly article as it has inaccurate information. The original title is "The Eagles' Victory Song" - | History of The Eagles' Victory Song lyrics - and the article name should be changed to "The Eagles' Victory Song", mentioning "Fly, Eagles Fly" as an AKA or derivative title.

You have already done this without discussion. Theroadislong (talk) 17:37, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the name back to "Fly, Eagles Fly" so that we can have a discussion about the name change. I am requesting an update to this article's page as it is not the original title of the song, but is rather an AKA (the more popular AKA that came later in history). Can I change the page name to "The Eagles' Victory Song", listing "Fly, Eagles Fly" as a popular AKA in the description? MichaelEMemoryLane (talk) 19:50, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@MichaelEMemoryLane: A requested move would work best here. Corky ^{Buzz by the Hornet's Nest} 20:01, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 November 2017

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved per WP:UCN. Jenks24 (talk) 10:42, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fly, Eagles Fly → The Eagles' Victory Song – I am requesting an update to this article's page as it is not the original title of the song, but is rather an AKA (or rather, "Fly, Eagles Fly" is the more popular AKA that came later in history). MichaelEMemoryLane (talk) 20:13, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – doing a quick Google search and reading through the websites, the current title is the WP:COMMONNAME, which rules over WP:OFFICIALNAME. Corky ^{Buzz by the Hornet's Nest} 20:28, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Corkythehornetfan:Can you confirm, at least, that the article now has enough notability to be it's own article? MichaelEMemoryLane (talk) 20:36, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to leave that up to Theroadislong and others to decide as I don't know the guidelines for what passes/doesn't pass. Corky ^{Buzz by the Hornet's Nest} 20:55, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Proposed merge with Philadelphia Eagles

not notable enough for it's own article, one line in the Philadelphia Eagles article would suffice. Theroadislong (talk) 21:38, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's just as notable and way more recognizable than Bear Down, Chicago Bears or The_Nittany_Lion_(song) or The Autumn Wind (Oakland Raiders fight song) or When the Saints Go Marching In (sports anthem) or several other sports teams' fight songs all with wiki pages. If these songs get their own page, the Eagles' Victory song should as well. FURTHERMORE, the song originally had NOTHING to do with the sports team and originated as its own entity separate from the NFL. It should be recognized as an historic song before i's recognized as the Eagles' NFL team theme. — MichaelEMemoryLane (talk • contribs) 21:56, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Then you need to find more sources because at the moment the article is supported by one blog post and notability is not established. Theroadislong (talk) 22:03, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sources added. I believe it is "notable" now. MichaelEMemoryLane 16:30, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support merge per nom. Notability is not established here. Corky ^{Buzz by the Hornet's Nest} 22:12, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Don't merge I have now added more sources and referenced historical information. Hopefully the article is now deemed "notable" enough to be its own entity.MichaelEMemoryLane 16:40, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Don't merge There is plenty of precedent for notability and the sourcing seems more than enough now. Jokullmusic 20:47, 2 December 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jokullmusic (talk • contribs)
Don't mergePage seems to have more historical information. One of the few NFL fight songs for a flagship franchise. Peetlesnumber1 (talk) 21:01, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Origin of song returning

I reverted the edits here about Darryll Petrancuri's involvement because there are no sources. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 23:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request edit on 14 January 2018

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

The history of the song is wrong and I can prove it.

I personally am responsible for the reboot of the song with the Philadelphia Eagles.

Mansure's assertion is not factual. It may be from his perspective, but I am absolutely responsible for re-introducing the song to the Philadelphia Eagles in 1997/98.

In the 1996 I started a personal campaign to re-introduce the song, originally titled "The Eagles Victory Song", into the civic consciousness by handing out the words to the song in my section (552) at Veterans Stadium and getting people to sing the song after the Eagles scored touchdowns. Around the same time I started singing the song on Sportsradio WIP, on the phone, live in studio and at the WIP tent for pre-game festivities for Eagles home games.

At the same time I became a benefactor of the Eagles Youth Partnership in it's inaugural year and and established relationships with the Eagles Director of Public Relations, Ron Howard, and Kim Babiak (now Babiak Phillips) who was responsible for all game day entertainment at Veterans Stadium for the Eagles. On a specific occasion during the 1997 season, when discussing game day entertainment with Babiak on the phone, I asked her what ever became of the fight song and how come the team never used it any more as part of pre-game activities. She was completely unaware of the existence of the song, and checked with other members of management at the time and confirmed that no one had any knowledge of the song, or it's history.

I explained that the song came out in the 1960s and the Eagles used to have a marching band that would play the game pre-game at the Vet, and that it also used to be played as the intro music to WIP's broadcast of Eagles games. I further explained that the song became mothballed circa 1983 during the time when Marion Campbell was the head coach. Babiak asked me why I was so interested in the song and explained my disdain for hearing the fight songs of other teams, namely the Washington Redskins, on network television game broadcasts, mostly after the Redskins scored and the network did not immediately go to commercial after such. I explained how I was on a personal crusade to bring back the song and told her of my efforts in my section and also with WIP. Babiak asked me to provide her with the words, music and composition and indicated she or a member of her staff would come by my section unannounced to see first hand if what I told her I was doing was indeed taking place, and that if it was, she would have the song placed on the Jumbotron (the large, black, lights only display in the 700 level) and the music played after touchdowns starting the following week. And true to her word, this is exactly what happened.

It was my introduction of the song that was the catalyst to Mansure's creation of the pep band. There should be credence given to this such and not have the revision summarily dismissed. I have reached out on LinkedIn to Babiak-Phillips for confirmation. Her last job in the NFL was as VP of Public Relations for the Houston Texans circa 2006-07. You state the revision was deleted because of lack of sources, which I understand. However, some credence and deference should be given to my story, as I can cite the specific member of the Eagles organization I dealt with in achieving my objective of getting it restored to the civic consciousness and getting it played and sung after touchdowns. Not only was I in contact with Babiak but had frequent contact with Ron Howard and I was also in contract with Mimi Box, who was Eagles Chief Operating Officer during the same period.

Why are you continuing to arbitrarily decline the requested change? Will you do so when I can get Kim Babiak to verify the veracity of my assertion? I'm not going to let this rest. I know the truth and this page does not accurately represent it.

Request @ Volunteer Response Team To resolve your request, please visit the Volunteer Response Team WP:OTRS/N. They are better equipped to help you than I am. Regards, Spintendo ᔦᔭ 18:34, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]