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Untitled
[edit]I would appreciate if anyone could confirm that the elimination schedule I listed here is correct. Thanks. Jalabi99 16:32, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
- Everything from the beginning to episode 4 is now correct. EntChickie 22:19, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks, dude :) Jalabi99 01:01, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
removed info
[edit]I removed entries from the External Links and See Also sections. The entries in question were spectulation and written as if this were a message board. The other part was the information of the show winner, which has not aired yet. This shouldn't be added until after the series finale. Krabstarr 04:21, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Why on Earth did somebody smack this page with a copyright violation for plagarizing off the site, [[1]], when [[2]] isn't even a site?! The copyright-thingy should be lifted off this page.
Because the episode descriptions were lifted directly from VH1's FoL page. Ckessler 17:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
But there's no proof of this, as the URL provided does not exist.
Take a look at http://www.vh1.com/shows/dyn/flavor_of_love_2/featured_episodes.jhtml Ckessler 20:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
April Navarro
[edit]Is April Navarro ("Bubblez") from Season 1 related to Dave Navarro? I saw a picture of them arm in arm on IMDB. Can anyone tell something I don't know?
Merging Articles
[edit]Umm, If Nicole Alexander, who only appeared on the first season, and wasn't a major part of it (Despite winning) Shouldn't Tiffany Patterson have her own page? She's been on TWO seasons, and is arguably the star. Acne_Wash
Wait a minute, uhhhhhh, if your going to merge articles, then you have to merge it with the winner,"Hoopz". (sorry if I spoiled it for anyone) I understand "New York", but "Rain" was elimanated on the second episode, and she's only famous for that fight with "New York". "Red Oyster", I'm a bit if-y about merging her, yes she was the house hold snitch, but other than that, she was a minor character. "Hottie", no, no, and no, all she was doing on that show was looking for wealth, how is she important to the show? Also, at least if you're going to merge the contestants with the show, you might as well just merge every contestant with the article, also you really should merge Flavor Flav with "Flavor of love" as well. - Summerwind159 03/18/06, 11:26 A.M.
No, Flavor Flav has a career outside the show. He is a member of a group which has released numerous albums and toured all over the world. He's also appeared on several other shows. I'm not saying he's my hero, but he's not a famewhore who is appearing on one show in order to boost a non-existant career. When those girls do something else that will cause their bio information to be widely available, they can have an entry. Ckessler
I don't who sliced up this article in this way, but I think it detracts from the earlier, more organized version of it. Methinks I shall have to do some reverts very soon... -- Jalabi99 22:27, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Why do the contestants need a seperate section, when they could easily be listed with the episode in which they were eliminated? There was no extra information contained in that section. Ckessler 22:30, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
- Agreeing with this. Until these girls make a name for themselves outside of the show, there's no point. EntChickie 13:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Websites
[edit]Should we even have the websites for each of the girls individually? That isn't really isn't proper information to have on the page. Krabstarr 09:50, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
- As horrible (and embarrassing) as this is for me to admit, I've been keeping up with the show and I found the links to the girls' personal websites were actually kind of interesting as they gave viewers (and readers alike) a glimpse into who they really are (repeat offenders on B reality television). Could we consider putting them under "External links"? Project Runway did. --Caponer 23:58, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
- I am putting the website references back, as they bolster my assertion that most of the women in the show are either models or actresses or otherwise involved in the entertainment business. Just as in the Feb 12 episode, "Pumkin" revealed that she had previously been on "Blind Date," I recently watched an episode of MTV's "Next", where she appeared as a contestant. I am not really sure how the person who added that "this article may contain original research or unverified claims" tag expects me or anyone else to "add references", when most of the source material is from the television program itself. However, if I can find a link to the MTV Next episode where "Pumkin" (Brooke) appears, though, I will, as well as any link to the Blind Date episodes where she and/or "Hottie" (Schatar) appear. -- Jalabi99 05:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- I'm still not convinced that the websites belong actually IN the article. You don't see this occur anywhere else in Wikipedia. Each girl should either have a page (stub?) of her own and that information included there, or use the Project Runway model. I'd be for using Project Runway's way of doing things, but it's not right the way it is. Not to mention ugly. Krabstarr 09:59, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- I hear you. However, I don't think that having a stub for each of these contestants would be that helpful. Stubs take up space that I think could be better used by Wikipedia. Also, what are the odds that any of these women will be more important players in the entertainment industry than they already are? The main reason why I put the URLs within the article, which may or may not "violate" the usual Wikipedia look-and-feel, is that I didn't think that it would have made that much sense to have them in a separate section of the article (say, "External Links"). The URLs validate my original assertion that most if not all of these women are not girls next door, but rather are MAWs (model/actress/whatever) I will look over the "Project Runway" page and see what that is like -- I don't follow the show so I had never had the desire to view it before. -- Jalabi99 02:08, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
OK, just saw it. It's not a bad format. If I can find the time, I might change over this page to it. -- Jalabi99 02:12, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- I just did the reformat myself. I think it looks much better then before. Krabstarr 15:18, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
- Of course you would think so, since you were the one who did the re-format :) I will turn it over in my head a little and see if that is the way it should still remain. -- Jalabi99 03:51, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Are we sure these are the girls' websites? Anyone can set up a MySpace account and say "I'm _____."
- That is true, anonymous poster. However, most of those MySpace sites seem to be for the women in question, since most of them are models or aspiring actresses. It would not be in their best interest to allow fake sites to remain up. I tend to think that the MySpace site links put here are genuine. -- Jalabi99 04:39, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
- Removed NY's MySpace as it is fake. It claims her last name is Patterson when this article says it's Pollard. Not only that but Red Oyster's blog says it's fake and commenters have said the woman running it has blocked comments when they ask her to verify her identity. ⇔ EntChickie 11:44, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- That is true, anonymous poster. However, most of those MySpace sites seem to be for the women in question, since most of them are models or aspiring actresses. It would not be in their best interest to allow fake sites to remain up. I tend to think that the MySpace site links put here are genuine. -- Jalabi99 04:39, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Editors
[edit]There have been many first time editors coming to this page and editing the article in ways which oppose Wikipedia Policy. Thank you for your interest, but please refer to Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers.
Article Language
[edit]Am I alone in thinking the language of this article is completely unacceptable? The Tone is bad, and some of the strange asides (Like accusing New York of being a suspected Trans-Sexual) are totally inappropriate. If I'm alone, I won't tag the artcle as needing cleanup, but I think it's a poor sample.
- That's as may be, but it would have been better if you had bothered to register with Wikipedia so that your unattributed remarks here would be better received. It makes more sense to criticize the works of others when you yourself have a name that we can put your words to. -- Jalabi99 22:26, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
- Well, the Original Poster wasn't directing his (or her) remarks at any particular individual, but was merely commenting on the general style of the article. I think a person is entitled to do that without identifying himself. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.6.66.193 (talk) 09:03:43, August 19, 2007 (UTC)
Episode format
[edit]I went ahead and reformatted the episode structure to make it a little more organized and prepare for season 2. However, when season 2 comes along, I think that episode descriptions should be a little more concise and maybe max out at a paragraph. EntChickie 04:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
- Good work, dude. Flav must be getting desperate: a second season? I don't think I could take any more of this sort of thing... :) -- Jalabi99 02:21, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- I added the previews listed on VH1's main site to the Wikipedia page. Those should be permitted, as they were able to be viewed on the official site, and are not intended to "spoil" the show. Rather, preview the upcoming-episodes this series. --User:QaisRoshan 1:09, 13 August 2006(UTC)
- Could some mention be made of what songs are used, like the "Flavor Flav is going double platinum" song they play in every one? The songs are cool, but it is hard to find out what they are.
Article clean-up
[edit]This article really needs cleaned up. It's confusing to read in some parts, and then there's huge "COPYRIGHT VIOLATION" box. There is also a whole paragraph that needs citations. If somebody with knowledege about the show could edit this article, that would be great.
I have the same complaint. I'm thinking that the "Betty Brown" is not really Nibblz's name, but rather another alias. And I feel http://flavoroflovesite.blogspot.com/ needs to be removed because it hasn't been updated in a long time.
On VH1's websites they had their real names up for a while. And when they where up Nibblz name was Domenique Majors.
Toastee's MySpace has been removed/deleted so I have removed that link. If anyone can find her new page please add it. I had no luck in finding one. Additionally, why the heck is a Strange Love link on this page? Should it be removed? Sweet Pinkette 18:39, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
The Show Is Fake! (PROOF)
[edit]If you look here :http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4509594497174485248 you can see the sets and crap. Should the fact that this "reality show" is NOT reailty be mentioned somewhere?!?!?! 69.47.130.72 16:02, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
I dont see anything--138.88.90.164 16:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- They went to a photoshoot. If you watched the preview, you would've known. They went to a photoshoot for a magazine (I think it's a magazine. Possibly something else) and that's why there's a set.-Babylon pride 20:37, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
That's the same video I put up not long ago. I've been watched it.--138.88.90.164 20:39, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm not gonna believe it fake. la blah blah. no listening --New York from Flavor of Love 04:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
There's no such thing as a REAL reality show. Would you act completely natural with cameras watching your every move? D4S 02:15, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
As if reality shows are real...lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.164.224.155 (talk) 16:16, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Eliminated
[edit]Okay. Look. It's Monday. Yeah, we have the video to prove who's going to get kicked off next and that NY is going to get brought back but I don't care. Until the episode is aired, I don't think it's a good idea to write who's getting eliminated in episode six. Don't put it back. And DEFINITELY don't put that Buckeey, I think it was, is eliminated in episode seven. That's two damn weeks away. You don't know that.-Babylon pride 22:10, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Who said that buckeey got eliminated in episode 7? Who could possibly know that?--138.88.90.164 00:51, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- Someone had it listed on the page. I removed it, along with a bunch of others including Buckwild and the adding of New York.-Babylon pride 00:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- They're getting it from Celebreality. I've been watching it too. It shows clips from like episode eight and what not of who's fighting and left and you can just figure it out from that. It's really dumb of the show to be giving it away.-Babylon pride 01:43, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Ok Wikipedia is for information. Not for personal opinions. I had proof. I am putting it back because if its their its proof. We can just put spoiler tags there. - Jtervin (not signed in)
- No. It's a general rule you put it in after it airs. It's somewhere in the whole wiki rules, I bet. I don't care you have proof. It hasn't aired on the television yet. If you keep putting it up, I (and others) will keep taking it down.-Babylon pride 22:00, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- Proof at WP:Spoilers Reubot (talk) 12:38, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- It'll be war then--138.88.90.164 22:15, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Fine. Since what, there's one, maybe two of you and like, at least five of us? (: Bring it on.-Babylon pride 21:21, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- Ay man, i's just kidding-138.88.90.164 02:45, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry. Should've been able to tell. Bad day yesterday. Sort of snappy.-Babylon pride 15:45, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Summaries
[edit]Uh. Question. If we keep deleting all the "Eliminated: Episode 6/7" crap, then should we allow an episode summary that explains who is getting eliminated? I'm deleting it. If you want it up, tell me because I'll save it in a document, or you can just redo it.-Babylon pride 14:33, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Line Up
[edit]I know that I'm adding a lot of stuff to this discussion page, and I'm sorry for that, but the thing... the thing that lists the genre, the running time and everything (sorry. I don't know the name of it. Brain fart), it's too long and it's smushing the season one episode summaries. Someone needs to do something about that. I don't know what we should take out, whether it's the little tag thing (yet again the name has left my mind) that says "This article or section contains furture information blaaaaah" or one of the links or what, but at least one thing needs to go, or the image needs to be shrunk or something because it's icky right now.-Babylon pride 01:42, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Now that we know NY's a full-time contestant for Season 2...
[edit]How should I work this info into the article? And BTW, after watching that last episode, I wished Pumkin could come back here! Tom Danson 19:30, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
What do you mean now, lol.-SSJ Gokan 19:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
- If you watched the newest episode you would know that New York is a contestant again in the house.IamCool316 23:40, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
- No, I mean some of us have known since last week that she was going to become a contestant due to a video on google. We kept deleting the info and decided to wait until it came on-SSJ Gokan 12:16, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Notable Personalities
[edit]I keep removing this section because it's uncited and POV. Who says they are notable? Notable to who? This section needs a cite from a reliable source before it can be kept in the article. Ckessler 17:44, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Notable Personalities
[edit]WHY does it keep getting deleted? I think it's great in palce of a bunch of articles.-ACNE_WASH 10/6/06
Somethin' defecated on the floor. New York was spit on by Pumkin. This stuff doesn't happen everday, and as a result, have garnered quite a bit of attention (The spit fiasco was #1 on VH1's celebreality countdown.) And since we aren't allowed to make articles for the individual contestants (Apparently you have to be known by 99% of the world to be worthy of a few stubs on Wikipedia) I thought It would be nice to have a section fro the personalities who are basically notable to everyone. Sorry if I don't have a 98 page report proving my point because that's basically what everyone seems to want!-ACNE_WASH
- This stuff has already been covered in the episode summaries, though. It would just be repetitious. Besides, saying it's what "everyone wants," yet you're the only one clamoring for it, doesn't bode well for your case to add this section. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 16:44, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
I didn't say everyone wanted a notable personalities section, I'm not an idiot and I know that doesn't make any sense. You misqouted me, I said 'Everyone seems to want a 98 page report proving my point' which is basically backed up by not being able to add an appostrophe without someone saying "This is a violation of our rules (snort) please provide several web links proving otherwise." If we can't make individual articles, we should have a bio section for the more notable characters (And yes, their is such a thing as notable personalities, because some contestants make it farther than others and are more outlandish.) I know y'all like simplicity and changes confuse and frighten you (I wasn't even allowed to add a one sentence synopsis of the future shows) but they are necessary to improve the page. You are entitled to your opinion, but so am I, and I'm not going to let my arguments be ignored, as they are just as valid as yours!-ACNE WASH, October 7, 2006
- The reason they don't get their own articles is not that ninety-nine percent of the world has to know of them. I doubt even half the world knows of some of the side actors that are portrayed on Lost which I know of, like Elizabeth Mitchell and William Mapother. Besides that though? The reason they don't get pages unless they win is that they're reality show people. They aren't major actors, or even B-list or C-list actors. They're only on television for two seconds, to go on a dating show for a bit of fame (because no way is this for any sort of love what-so-ever) and then they're off, forgotten. It's like an amusement park ride. You get on for 2 minutes, spun around some, then you get off, you're dizzy, sort of sick, wondering where your feet are, and once you find them, everything's normal again and you're forgotten.
- Besides that, we already have a mention of the spitting incident, not to mention a picture. There's mentions of the Something incident in the summary. It's very Point-of-View. And you're being incredibly childish. I'm really quite new here and I can even tell it's not "notable" to crap on a floor. Save a kid's life? That's notable. Go in the Twin Towers? That's notable. Can't hold it in? That isn't. Get angry and spit on someone? That isn't. Go into a house and lightens up a mood? What the hell? How is that notable? Having a big ass? Now you're just being dumb because that's got to be hereditary.
- Lastly, it's not that changes "confuse and frighten" us, but it's that we don't feel like putting incorrect information there since we're not sure what websites are right or not. If people want future previews/summaries of the episodes, they can read it somewhere else and trust it or not. Wikipedia already has enough fake stuff on it; it doesn't need more. We've already had a /huge/ editing war a while back where people found out who was getting deleted and put it up two episodes before. I don't see why it should be allowed now and spoil everything, even if it's just a tiny little sentence. There's plenty of sites that say it.-Babylon pride 01:43, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm the one who kept removing the section to begin with. Who says they are notable? Got sources, acceptable by WP:RS saying they are notable? Being on a reality tv show and likely never being heard from again, does not make a person notable. Ckessler 20:39, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
I respect your opinion, but do your research. My summaries NEVER spoiled an entire episode, they would be like 'A special 1, and a 1/2 hour episode in which Flav chooses one lover among the two remaining women.' That's better than a blank spot, no? And I am not childish, if I were childish I'd be ranting and raving, but here I am, respecting you, giving you your props for caring about the article. But I care too, and If I'm going to respect you, I would like respect back. AND I bet you that in 10 years, no one's going to remember the man who saved that little girl who was caught in a well, they have a MUCH better chance of remembering reality tv stars. Or maybe that's just me. And my parents. And my friends, and most of the people I know of. Acne_Wash, 8 October 2006
- In six months, no one will remember who the hell H-Town was. No one I know even watches Flavor of Love. I barely know the first names of the people still there. And maybe not of a well, because that's something local, but of something major like the Twin Towers or some plane crash or something? Yeah. I think they will. Five years from now? I think they still will. If they don't, and they remember Tiffany what's her face from Flavor of Love, it's showing how pathetic our country is.
- You were being childish. What do you call that sentence that states, "I know y'all like simplicity and changes confuse and frighten you ... but they are necessary to improve the page"? That's childish, assuming things. I like blank spots over a brief summary like that, frankly, because that's... crap. If they want the summary, they can check it on V-Spot.
- Lastly. Your notable things? I checked it. You didn't have Buckwild faking her accent. You didn't have H-Town or whoever it was getting attacking. You had people you liked. You didn't have anything about Something, Goldie and Like Dat being heavy. You didn't have the woman attacking H-Town. You didn't have the woman who did porn. If we ever chose to do something like that, it'd be from both seasons, and include something brief about every single person - like how Krazy was there simply for her recording act, and how her grandmother said that time and time again, and how her grandmother and mother kissed. And how Goldie was the first and only one in season one to be overweight. Things like that. Not just random POV about certain people that you like or know a lot about.-Babylon pride 17:07, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm not trying to be childish, I would listen to your arguments if you phrased them in a less offensive manner. I'm a grown person, I don't like people going up to me saying 'Your being childish! Listen to reason! Your being repetitve!' Even if that's true I'm not going to listen because that's abuse. Very mild, but nevertheless, it IS abuse. It's downright disrespectful, and I won't have it. Acne_Wash 10 0ctober 2006
Your are childish... no offense.-SSJ Gokan 23:51, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Oh thanks so much. Acne_Wash 11 October 2006
- At least someone agrees with me. But getting past that and into real issues, do we want a Notable Personalities section? And to make it fair, I don't mean six. I mean we focus on it, put a list of everyone. Every single person, and write their highlights, and their down falls. Maybe even make a chart, and write their major positive points, and their falls, and maybe a neutral. Like for Goldie, how she (for positive) was always happy and never really faught, (for negative) ended up getting drunk and throwing up (if... I remember right. I didn't watch season one. Might be writing someone completely different) and was disliked by Brigitte Nielsen because of her looks, and (for neutral) how she appeared on season two briefly, and was the heaviest of the girls of season one. Something like that. It'd be a bit bulky but... whatever. It probably wouldn't get it's own page but I think it might be nice. I mean, it's not right if you list six girls from like, fifty or something. That's just picking the ones you like. But writing them all? Yeah. That's good. We just need to focus on it, a lot because some girls are there for all of two seconds like Saaphyri, who has no positive part other than offering lip balm, which is really her catch phrase. (Imagine a doll being made of her with a phrase.) ... Right. Got off track. But, yeah. That's the only way to solve this. Just... comment on thoughts 'cause... yeah. Whatever.-Babylon pride 20:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Flavor of Love 3
[edit]There are rumors for a Flavor of Love 3 [3]. It is currently unknow. However, according to a message board on celebrites.netscape.com, it claims that Flavor Flav may have said he is done dealing with Flavor of Love. [4] --Pumpkin Pie 03:56, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Flav came on WGCI here in Chicago and wants to apparently do another season of Flavor Of Love. He suggests that the delay is caused by contractual problems. It's too bad they don't keep copies of their radio shows so that I can confirm this happened.
(Matthewmilam 17:30, 27 May 2007 (UTC))
Is Deelishis gonna lose?
[edit]There is also a rummor that Deelishis may have lost. According to a comment she made on BET Black Carpent saying she was very single and that ir was a pleasure meeting Flavor Flav. check out http://www.vh1.com/interact/boards/main.jhtml/flavor_of_love_2/ViewThread?tID=1143203&mID=5738093&offset=0&index=0
That's fake. She can't tell because it'd breach her contract and she'd get her ass sued so fast, she'd be in the poor house before she could blink, since like Dog Eat Dog and things like that, no one can speak about it (maybe after it airs but not before). That's also why I'm taking down the rumor part. It's definitely not a credible source.-Babylon pride 21:14, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I like Babylon Pride's idea. I don't see a reason to include contestants who received virtually no air time (Like Apples) but if anyone has an objection I'm open to listen-Acne_Wash 13 October 2006
- I was thinking it'd be difficult for anyone that got booted off first episode but it'd be fair so... I'm not sure. I just don't know enough about the show to put it on. Like, what I'm saying is I don't download the episodes from the internet and watch them like I've done with other shows until the DVDs come out and there isn't anywhere to watch the episodes like ABC.com has, which is dumb. Well... there's youtube, I guess. I'm still not sure if it should be on this page or not though since it'd be long. Then again, I'm not sure if it'd be good enough for it's own page, which is why I'd want someone really experienced to comment. All I've seen working these boards the past few days have been people posting links to god damn message boards, and reposting them up when I take them down, which is bull. Not going to get into that though. I'm so rambling. God damn it. Sorry. Uh. Well. Wish someone would comment on what we can do with this since I've had it up for a bit.-Babylon pride 22:02, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Rumor Section
[edit]Take down the rumor section. It's not credible, at all. I'm horrible at knowing what URLs are credible and not and I can tell they're not credible. I took down the one part about how Deelishis says she is single because that completely breaches her contract, which they obviously gave her, so that's fake. (Which I just noticed that went back up, with a change. That was taken down because of the reason stated here.) And it's from a chat with people that are just fans. The other link is from another chat that is all about how he won't have another season, even giving a news article stating the link the person got it from, and it's counted as being said that there may be another season? Psh. Remove it. If I do it, I'm afraid I'm going to get yelled at and I want someone more experienced to do it but in my opinion, it's trash. Not credible links, but going to a link that completely contradicts what you're saying? That's... so dumb.-Babylon pride 21:23, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Lockdown to anonymous editors?
[edit]I've noticed that a lot of anonymous editors are putting either "Deelishis" or "New York" as to who will be eliminated in tonight's episode, and I'm thinking of semi-protecting the article until it airs. What do you think? Mike H. I did "That's hot" first!
- It airs in... six hours. If you wanna try though, go ahead. I'm just not sure how fast the semi-protecting is. Doesn't matter to me 'cause I'm going to be online until it airs.-Babylon pride 19:20, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
The Flavorette
[edit]http://realitytvcastingcall.com/Article624.phtml
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117949885.html?categoryid=14&cs=1&nid=2565
http://www.vibe.com/news/news_headlines/2006/08/flavor_of_love_diva_gets_her_own_show/
http://seriouslyomgwtf.blogsome.com/2006/09/11/the-flavorette-gets-the-greenlight-from-vh1/
-- The phrase "and think you can put up with a top shelf Diva" from the original casting call, and New York's insane 'popularity' (in probably the worst sense of the word), makes me pretty sure its going to be NY's show.
Tiffany Patterson (AKA New York) Page
[edit]With spurring rumors of a possible spin-off seriers, I feel the Tiffany Patterson redirect you be deleleted. What the Patterson page lacks is detail and information, which should be ample available after two seasons of Flave-lovin' and the most recent soliciations for a VH1 series. I would encourage a vote/survey or something along those lines. - sharp962 10/17/06.
- Since she will be having a television show, and the page has been created, I believe a Tiffany Patterson page should be written. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 07:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I also think a Tiffany Patterson page should be created. Nicole Alexander (Hoopz) has one, and I don't feel as though she is as recognizable as NY.-Acne_Wash 22 Ocotber 2006
I do not feel as though it should be linked in the article, as there is intense speculation that it is fake. Acne_Wash 22 October 2006
- Actually, none of the MySpace external links should be in the article, since WP expressly forbids it, as seen here. I deleted all of them. Nightscream 07:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
MERGE
[edit]Someone suggested to merge London Charles to Flavor of Love. I don't think it should be merged. Tiffany Patterson has her own article and so should London Charles. Plus she's Flavor Flav's mate so i think she should have her own article. --Pumpkin Pie 05:09, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- Personally I don't think any of the contestants from the show should have their own article except Tiffany Patterson, and that is only because she is doing her own show. Otherwise they are no more notable than any other contestant on a game show. Mcr29 06:53, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- FYI, when we dealt with this issue at So You Think You Can Dance (which had a very active debate that raged through multiple places on Wikipedia), the general consensus that resulted was that a contestant should only have their own page, if they have a claim to independent notability outside of the show itself. In other words, if the only reason that they're currently famous is because they're on a game show, then their bio should be included as a subparagraph on the article about the show. However, if they have other claims to fame that would make them pass the tests at WP:BIO (like if they've won national awards or gotten a lot of press attention for other accomplishments), then it makes sense to give them their own bio page, as long as it's carefully sourced with external references, per the policy at Wikipedia:Verifiability. --Elonka 20:09, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- That makes sense, and also goes along with my suggestion that only Tiffany Patterson should have (or will have) a bio page, as she has (or will have) her own show. Mcr29 20:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- London Charles, Shay Johnson, and Larissa Hodge should keep their own pages. If not them, at least London Charles should. --Pumpkin Pie 02:52, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- What is your reasoning for this? How do they meet the requirements of notability? I understand you are a fan of the show but there are guidelines put in place for good reasons and they should be followed. Even if London were to marry Flav, she still wouldn't meet the requirement since being married to a famous person does not constitute notability. Mcr29 18:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes she does! everyone who is dating or married thats a celebrite has their own article. --Pumpkin Pie 02:54, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- The problem is you're labeling London as a celebrity when in fact she is the winner of a contest, nothing more. She's done nothing outside of the show to establish her celebrity. Mcr29 00:38, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- What is your reasoning for this? How do they meet the requirements of notability? I understand you are a fan of the show but there are guidelines put in place for good reasons and they should be followed. Even if London were to marry Flav, she still wouldn't meet the requirement since being married to a famous person does not constitute notability. Mcr29 18:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- London Charles, Shay Johnson, and Larissa Hodge should keep their own pages. If not them, at least London Charles should. --Pumpkin Pie 02:52, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- That makes sense, and also goes along with my suggestion that only Tiffany Patterson should have (or will have) a bio page, as she has (or will have) her own show. Mcr29 20:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- FYI, when we dealt with this issue at So You Think You Can Dance (which had a very active debate that raged through multiple places on Wikipedia), the general consensus that resulted was that a contestant should only have their own page, if they have a claim to independent notability outside of the show itself. In other words, if the only reason that they're currently famous is because they're on a game show, then their bio should be included as a subparagraph on the article about the show. However, if they have other claims to fame that would make them pass the tests at WP:BIO (like if they've won national awards or gotten a lot of press attention for other accomplishments), then it makes sense to give them their own bio page, as long as it's carefully sourced with external references, per the policy at Wikipedia:Verifiability. --Elonka 20:09, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Deelishis + Flav broke up??? maybe
[edit]check out this link. ([5]). It says they broke up. But wait, I think they're still together cause she was just on 106 & Park today. She said them are still together. I believe her. I think the "breaking up" rumor is not true. --Pumpkin Pie 02:15, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
- Is 106 & Park live? If that's the case, then that would clarify more than TV.com would. Irk(talk) 22:41, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Episode summaries
[edit]A lot of the episode summaries, especially those for season 2, need to be rewritten to a more professional tone and also shortened. Some of them read like assignments for a high school English class, others just don't flow chronologically. ⇔ EntChickie 07:49, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Flow of main page
[edit]I have moved the long summaries and charts to articles for their own seasons. I have placed the important information (eg. who won) in a table that I think looks a lot neater. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 09:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
New York HIV?
[edit]Can someone cite this?
SCHATAR SAPPHIRA TAYLOR
[edit]CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME, WHY THE HECK, THE SCHATAR SECTION WAS DELETED? AND SUPPOSEDLY MERGED WITH FLAVOR OF LOVE? 24.191.196.156 12:54, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Spin-offs
[edit]I think that unless we have proof that Love is Deelishis, Tango of Love and especially 12 pack and Heat in Road 2 Fame are actually spin offs, they need to be removed.Rosario lopez 00:12, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Airing of the Show Chart
[edit]Under where it says "Season 3", there's a long list of details that have nothing to do with what the chart is about. Can someone fix or shorten the chart that way the information comes out correctly like Season 1 & 2? Cookie Monster 17:50, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
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Chris Job With Mc Donalds
[edit]Chris Kosmatka... Well Good Evening everyone from Flavor Of Love. This is Chris Kosmatka from Los Angeles/ Sterearns Ave: Coahrun st. from the other side of the freeway. Where Stearns is vou come off the freeway. Anyways Chris Kosmatka mainly came from Moorpark. But then hadto make it through a last 25 years of hard time. While ending up supported with my family and with my job coach Chrissy Cossiplios while living in Moorpark for 12 years Chris Kosmatka still made it through a lot everyday the hospital was watching me. And as my days were worked up from each head surgery after surgery. Chris Kosmatka was ready to go on vacation. This was while Chrissy was watching up to the day Chris Kosmatka made it to to Childrens Hospital. Thats why after vacation the families got together. Decided to move to Oregon City after 15 head surgies that Chrissy Cossiplios did not witness!!! While I Chris Kosmatka moved to Barkley Village. After 2 years of living at Barkley Village Chris Kosmatka had as much good time as he had in Oregon City. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.184.108.28 (talk) 02:46, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
Chriss Story
[edit]Chriss Story... Chris Oregon City and how Chris Kosmatka really got involved with. How to put this girl and her friends out of work just so. My parents can afford to let me buy them a house in Beaverton Oregon!!! So Chris Kosmatka had to put the school of business for a reason. One day me and my parents drove out to Beaverton Oregon. I lived in Beaverton Oregon for 10 years so here is what happen. Chris Kosmatka went to school and made it through high school made it through Graduation and without Chrissy Cossipplios. Made friends that helped me make it all the way into college. Operated with a VNS. 2 years of Portland Community College. Finally after everything was all settled and done our family went to Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.184.108.28 (talk) 03:15, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
Chriss Book
[edit]Chris Kosmatka... As the vacation to Canada was on we bot our dog Kayla being since Missy died on me and my Mother. Then we Sold our 11250 sw. Tanager Terrace house. John was down in San Marcos ready to purchase our house. Man I happy to get out of Oregon. One day we drove down to San Marcos and the house wasent finished yet. Chris Kosmatka had to wait 2 years for the San Marcos house to finish. Then my Vista Walmart Job when Chris Kosmatka went into Vista Walmart he was ready. Just like how Chris Kosmatka was a greeter 2 years. Vista Walmart and then a toy associate. Thats why Chris Kosmatka got transfered for 35 hours of work. San Marcos Walmart was a lot harder. Being since Chris Kosmatka had to work with his friend Robert from the start. Before Tereca Johnson started working with me and cutting my hours to 4 hours. Anyways while working with Robert I was able to eat out a lot more. While Chris Kosmatka was working while Manager Bill only assigned me. 4 hours a day each week. I Could tell now didnt care about one mans hours how about attentance!!! As the days were going on Chris Kosmatka got sent home. Were fights going on before Chris Kosmatka got home? Well Anyways I had my parents send me to the hospital 3 times and stabbed myself on Bill Gileast and Walmart then Walked off to Ventura County. Christopher Kosmatka — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.184.108.28 (talk) 03:54, 31 May 2023 (UTC)