Talk:Flag of Mauritania

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Tone of green in the flag

Is the tone of the Mauritanian flag really dark green? It seems the image of the waving Mauritanian flag says otherwise. The source on the flags of the world says that the flag was "emerald green". In relation to this, there has been an edit war on which Itatch keeps on uploading the Mauritanian flag with a lighter green but keeps being reverted by Squidville1 and Fry1989.--Hariboneagle927 (talk) 16:09, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Itatch is a vandal, nothing more, incapable of or unwilling to properly discuss their edits which is why they are currently blocked. They also edit warred on several other files and vandalised File:Flag of Mali.png. Fry1989 ^eh? 18:28, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well his edit on Mali's flag was blatantly erroneous. Back to the discussion. Was there really a specification for the Mauritanian flag's green. If there is a source then it would be better, that the specifications would be mention on the article. While searching the internet, I encountered versions on the flag, with lighter green. Just asking for clarifications.--Hariboneagle927 (talk) 03:09, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There are various sources for both a lighter and a darker green. The current green was based on the flag used at the Olympics and the United Nations because that is an official context and more likely to be correct than just common made versions that anyone can buy. Fry1989 ^eh? 16:36, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

symbols to top and not centered?

Is there a reason/basis for this?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:27, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The flag seems to follow the construction sheet at FotW, sourced to a vexillologist at the Flag Institute. Though FotW itself questions where the Institute got the dimensions from. SiBr₄ (talk) 14:03, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Independence from France but not from state religion!

freedom of religion has degrees — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2149:8217:700:C463:4413:E614:E38F (talk) 07:36, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There are roughly 30 (plus or minus 5) countries in the world that still have an official state-endorsed religion; I don't think this article is the place to discuss that. BrendonTheWizard (talk) 19:00, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Adoption of new flag

I am surprised at the date given for adoption of the flag after the referendum. The provisional results were published on 6 August, but I haven't seen anything to confirm that the changes came into force that soon. To the contrary, [1] reports that they come into effect on the publication of the presidential decree, which had not yet happened on 8 August. [2] says that people are able to lodge appeals until 20 August, so the official change in flag may be some time off. Obviously it doesn't necessarily reflect the offical situation, but there are also photos online of a ministers at events with the old flag this week. JPD (talk) 04:09, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Flag disposition

Here's the new flag in use 1. Let's have one close to it on the page. --Aréat (talk) 10:30, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

it seems the flag with a thin crescent and lighter green is in fact used when referring to the Mauritanian government and not the military? here are some instances

so maybe we should have both flags on this page, except the one with darker green should have a 1:1 ratio? Thespündragon 18:50, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen the flag with the darker green and more circular crescent used in the 2:3 ratio currently on the article several times by now. In fact, it seem to be what you link as 3 and 5, even thought it's the president being in there. It seem to me the Mauritanian government actually may not be very consistent in the exact flag it's using. Now, I think we should stick with the one currently on the page, for the simple reason that the flag change in the 2017 referendum only mentioned the addition of red bands, not a modification of the crescent. So we should stick with the crescent as we portrayed it on the previous years for more than a decade before. Then, let's wait a bit more, and see if maybe the government decide what to use consistently. Do you agree?--Aréat (talk) 01:25, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that we should probably wait for the Mauritanian government to settle before making our final decision, probably have this discussion again in six months? But I think that as the file with the thinner crescent is based on semi-official documents from the embassy in Tokyo, maybe we should use that one until the government makes their use more consistent. (also, the photo in link 5 does have the thinner crescent, as can be seen on the smaller table flag) Thespündragon 04:35, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, which one are you mentioning now? It's been switched several times at this point. --Aréat (talk) 11:40, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should use File:Flag_of_Mauritania.svg at this point, as its based on semi-official documents from the Embassy in Tokyo, and is consistent with multiple photos. Thespündragon 05:00, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I disagree, as per the points above. --Aréat (talk) 04:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think that we should have this conversation again in a few months to wait for the Mauritanian Gov. to have a single standard design. Until then, I think the dark green flag would be fine (as long as the 1959 flag is consistent with it, also using the dark green) Thespündragon 19:57, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To your point about using the dark green flag until then (consistent with the former design), I absolutely agree. It's for the best that we come up with a solution now and - if and when we get information from the Mauritanian government - modify as needed. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 17:04, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There's a consensus here for using the flag with the unchanged green and crescent until things are clear on the government's side. Yet we can't make the change because the image is locked. --Aréat (talk) 19:25, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Aréat, you cited the "photo above" (which i assume to refer to File:Photo_Flag_Mauritania.JPG), but I believe File:Flag_of_Mauritania_(1959–2017).svg to be more accurate to this photo than File:Flag_of_Mauritania_1960-2017.svg, and I overlayed them both onto the photo using the star as a central point, see [8]. While both have some differences to this photo, the propotions of the latter's crescent are nowhere near the crescent in the photo, in my opinion. If you were referring to a different photo, please tell me which one. Thespündragon 23:43, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Considering the tips of the crescent aren't on the same position, one further back than the others, it is clearly more stretched out. Cordially--Aréat (talk) 23:50, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment In a brief discussion I had with the user that created the current file for the Flag of Mauritania, they noted "the document colors and the stated codes do not match at all" with regard to the light pantone colors on the new design. I agree with the editors here that believe we should be using the dark green version as the primary version for all intents and purposes for the time being. I will, however, note that it appears both designs have been used in practice, so if and when the government of Mauritania offers some much-needed clarification, we'll use the version their government specifies. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 17:04, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree on using the version with the unchanged color and crescent. Now, implementing the consensus here seem like a very diffficult thing.--Aréat (talk) 19:25, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The main file File:Flag of Mauritania.svg will be editable on 16 February, so the 'correct' version can be uploaded in place of the current one. Number 5 7 21:54, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vote to change the main flag

The file will be editable in a few days, so let's agree beforehand. Who is in favor of having the dark green with non flattened crescent version as the main flag on the page, and the light green flattened one mentioned in the article - basically the reverse of the current situation -, and who is against the change, keep the status quo? Let's have a vote.

Support as both versions are sometimes used at the government level, and the constitutional change of 2017 had no mention of a modification of the green shade and crescent shape. --Aréat (talk) 18:37, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I support the suggestion that we use a file that more closely resembles what we've hitherto displayed - only with the addition of red stripes, of course - based on the conflicting sources (in some sources it does in fact have a varied color and shape, but we've also seen sources coming out of Mauritania that do not modify the colors or shape). This solution would be ideal until clarification from the government of Mauritania itself. With all of this being said I should also note that this discussion should probably happen on the file's page rather than English Wikipedia as this file is displayed on many Wikipedias. 05:34, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

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