Talk:Fish physiology

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Reference to frog study in fish article

Hey all, I removed a reference to a controversial study on frogs from this article, but noted only that I'd removed it because it hasn't been replicated and has generally been questioned in the scientific community (my current understanding is that the author has refused to share his data/methods). Since I removed it I didn't find citations to justify this removal, so apologies for that - I can do this if need be? However, I didn't make clear that a secondary reason is that this is a single, non-replicated study that was performed on a single species of frog. This is a article on fish. If the study was more reliable or notable (other than due to its controversy) then I'd understand it's inclusion. As it is, I really don't, and I don't think it's useful in this instance; I haven't reverted the reversion because I don't want to look like edit warring, but I really don't see why this study is mentioned in this particular article? Does anyone please have any advice or input on what to do with this sentence/citation? Also apologies again for not clearly explaining my edit, I understand why it was confusing. Blue-Sonnet (talk) 11:23, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey again, after leaving the matter for a couple of months I haven't heard back from anyone about this edit. This means I've seen no argument, information or evidence to explain how a single frog (amphibian) study can be directly linked to fish in general (not amphibians). In fact, the wiki on fish explains:

"However, traditionally fish are rendered paraphyletic by excluding the tetrapods (i.e., the amphibians, reptiles, birds and mammals which all descended from within the same ancestry)".

I've been asked to provide citations to back up my removal of this study, but the best reason I have is that the studio study involved a completely different animal to the one in the article. I'm also not sir where these citations should go, and what kind of citation would be needed for "frog≠fish".

I'm therefore going to remove the frog study again. If anyone feels it should stay, can they please add some information explaining how a study of frog hormones links to fish physiology please? I'd imagine citations would be needed too. However, this would be a fourth edit, so I'd imagine we should discuss it in the talk page first? Thanks!

ETA: Ah, it appears the wording has been changed. I'm still not 100% happy since it doesn't really appear NPOV, but I don't feel experienced enough to delve into the matter further at this stage. Blue-Sonnet (talk) 23:53, 8 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]