Talk:Fish knife

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Food and drink, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of food and drink related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Food and drinkWikipedia:WikiProject Food and drinkTemplate:WikiProject Food and drinkFood and drink articles

???

This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Food and Drink task list:

To edit this page, select here

Here are some tasks you can do for WikiProject Food and drink:

Help bring these Top Importance articles currently B Status or below up to GA status: Agaricus bisporus (i.e. mushroom), Beef, Bread, Curry, Drink, Food, Ham and eggs, Soy sauce, Sushi, Yogurt
Bring these Top Importance articles currently at GA status up to FA status: Beer, French cuisine, Sugar
Bring these High Importance articles currently at GA status up to FA status: Apple, Burger King, Fish
Participate in project-related deletion discussions.
Delete unrelated trivia sections found in articles. Please review WP:Trivia and WP:Handling trivia to learn how to do this.
Add the {{WikiProject Food and drink}} project banner to food and drink related articles and content to help bring them to the attention of members. For a complete list of banners for WikiProject Food and drink and its child projects, select here.
Provide photographs and images for Category:Wikipedia requested images of food
Consider joining this project's Assessment task force. List any project ideas in this section

Note: These lists are transcluded from the project's tasks pages.

Prohibition against using regular knives

There is a Western cultural norm against using regular table knives on the fish. The norm is not rooted in any practical considerations (using other silver tools would be OK from the taste perspective), but was nonetheless introduced sometime in the 18th century, as far as I can recall, as a "class marker". I've seen some culturological research on the subject, but was not able to re-discover it while writing the article. Any hints will be appreciated. Викидим (talk) 01:57, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No actual hints, @Викидим, but how interesting that class marker isn't a blue link. Multiple articles use it that way, which makes me think there may not be an article at some other term for this. Seems like there should be an article. Nice work on this article, btw. Valereee (talk) 17:13, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe status symbol? Valereee (talk) 17:18, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Class marker is narrower than the status symbol, IMO it is a status symbol that separates the externally recognized elite (and can be an act of not using something sophisticated, cf. U and non-U English). I am planning to eventually write some text on the subject, probably as a section of the Status symbol (that needs a better treatment anyhow). Викидим (talk) 17:37, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Working on it: Class marker (sociology). Викидим (talk) 06:21, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fishing knife

Since the {{distinguish}} was removed, a note will be useful here: the fishing knife is a completely different tool used for, well, actual fishing. Викидим (talk) 22:03, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]