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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on May 2, 2009.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the ending of the South Park episode "Fatbeard" mirrors the resolution of the hijacking of the Maersk Alabama by Somalian pirates?

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Mythological Pirates?

Since when are pirates mythological? I don't like that word at all. I could see maybe maybe "stereotypical pirates", or maybe even "classical pirates". But mythological? Come on now, Pirates did exist. They're definitely not on par with unicorns, trolls, or minotaurs.

(Nicolaslabbe (talk) 19:54, 16 July 2009 (UTC))[reply]

I think you're right, and since we already say "classic era" before each mention of mythological, I just dropped the word altogether. — Hunter Kahn _(c) 02:54, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Material

Dude, WTF. You can copy stuff from their "Press" section of their website. That's what it's for, for people in the "press", which I believe Wikipedia counts as. Quit being retarded and leave the summary in there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wamerocity (talk • contribs) 02:38, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is plagiarism. Please read Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches for more information. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:49, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fast Editing

OK, the episode just ended a few seconds ago and the article is already written. How? Is there a way to see the episode earlier than its premiere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.154.192.23 (talk) 05:32, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Probably someone taking notes as they go along. Alastairward (talk) 07:50, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SPOILER

I just removed the word 'spoiler', written in all caps, from the page. Shouldn't need to be there, yeah? --217.157.160.83 (talk) 06:28, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Explanation Required

Whoever was responsible for this contribution to Cultural References:

"The scene wherein the path of where Cartman and his crew traveled is an obvious reference of Indiana Jones"

I have removed this until you, or anyone else, can clarify the meaning. I understand you are drawing a parallel between an aspect of the episode and Indiana Jones, however the phrase: "The scene wherein the path of where Cartman and his crew traveled" is so poorly constructed in terms of grammar and so oblique in terms of description it is hard to ascertain exactly what you mean by this.

If you are referring to the montage in which we see a red line drawn across a map as Cartman and Co travel towards Somalia I would challenge the accuracy of saying that this is a reference to the Indiana Jones series as there are a number of Black and White films which predate the Indiana Jones series and have used this cinematic convention. 89.242.81.213 (talk) 12:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Song Lyrics

I have removed the section with lyrics to the Somalia Pirate Song. I simply do not think they meet the guidelines for encyclopaedic notability, especially considering how little significance the song had within the episode itself. That said, if you disagree can we discuss instead of just restoring them? 89.242.81.213 (talk) 13:32, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're right that they aren't notable, also I think I'm right in saying that it's not copyright-healthy to have an entire song transcribed on the page; this is, at least, the convention with Wikiquote.Joncheetham88 (talk) 19:49, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Judaism?

I don't think that linking the word "Jew" to Judaism is correct. Please link to Jews instead. --65.105.195.14 (talk) 17:17, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have a better question on this. Kyle says, and Cartman agrees, that Jews can't be pirates. Why does Cartman accept Ike as a pirate? Is it just those who are born Jews? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.202.248.68 (talk) 17:47, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just because Ike is adopted by a Jewish family DOESN'T make him Jewish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.179.153.35 (talk) 19:36, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe not, but I would think going to Jewbilee Camp might be a good indication that he's Jewish. Hoof Hearted (talk) 19:46, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's either a goof, or it's because Cartman (being a racist) doesn't consider people who aren't born Jewish to be Jews, or it's because Cartman is too stupid to know that Ike is Jewish. 96T (talk) 22:44, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reference to US-Somali Stand-Off

Isn't this a show a direct reference to the recent capture of a Maersk merchant ship of Somali Pirates. It also clearly shows that in the episode by all pirates getting shot by US Snipers, which is what ended the stand-off. 69.235.11.219 (talk) 04:03, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is. Read the "Production and theme" section. 96T (talk) 22:45, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Susan Boyle Picture

Is it really necessary to have a picture of Susan Boyle in this article? She was only mentioned briefly and certainly isn't related to the plot of the episode. Sure, I can appreciate that someone took the time to paint her portrait and wants it to be seen, but I don't think this article is the place for it. Unless someone has any objectionss, I'm going to remove it. Compuandy (talk) 22:23, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, I put it there, but in all honesty I could take it or leave it. Whatever the majority wants is fine with me. — Hunter Kahn _(contribs) 23:23, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm removing it per Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Non-article_space. The image placement next to the sentence "Ike indicates he will vomit his testicles out through his mouth if he has to hear anything more about Susan Boyle..." is unnecessary. APK straight up now tell me 08:04, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like someone beat me to it. Thanks IP. APK straight up now tell me 08:05, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The French

"The French schooner crew members are portrayed as pretentious cowards, a stereotype of the French based on their surrender during World War II."

Emphasis mine. Um...that's quite an understatement... JDS2005 (talk) 05:57, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is a talk page, not a forum, are you addressing anything specific about the make up of the article itself or the cited material? Alastairward (talk) 11:41, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm saying that the line I quoted should probably be adjusted a bit. JDS2005 (talk) 22:57, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Isn't the surrender of the French more a reference to Star Wars? In Star Wars (especially Episode I) the leaders of the Trade Federation speak English with a French accent and are portrayed as cowards that are daunted by the prescence of two Jedi Knights (and their light sabers) on their ship. --Dodothegoof (talk) 11:42, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

France

The bit in the cultural references should be reworded. France was conquered and had the government illegally changed (for one thing the whole Vichy France thing was unconstitutional by the constitution of the Third Republic), several members of government were even arrested or had to flee, including the former President. The majority of France remained occupied by Germany throughout the war and the Vichy French not only collaborated with the Germans but also fought against the Allies and the Free French forces. Also historically they did quite well over the past 1200 years, they often won against against numerically superior foes, WWII is one of their only notable major defeats, 1871 being another.. 69.196.170.75 (talk) 06:04, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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