Talk:Falling (accident)

Someone with journal access please check what a fatal height is for adults

Could someone with access to the journal The Surgical clinics of North America check if there is any specific height given that causes mortality in 50% in cases for adults in Buckman 1991 (PMID 2003254)? Or perhaps equivalent numbers from another article?

The thing is, according to Mosenthal 1995 (PMID 7760404) "The 50% mortality for free falls in children occurs at five to six stories (60 to 72 feet), while for adults it occurs at four stories (48 feet)". However, it cites, in turn, Buckman 1991 as well as Barlow 1983 (PMID 6620098). However, when looking into Barlow 1983, it actually states "between 5th and 6th floors", which, assuming US convention, corresponds to between 4 and 5 storeys above the ground, which would rather correspond to something like 40 to 50 feet. It doesn't give what is the case for adults, so I assume Mosenthal got it from Buckman. However, I don't have access to that original article myself, but it should still be checked to see what Mosenthal really meant. Mikael Häggström (talk) 14:10, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

However, Barlow studies falls from "one or more stories" and, look at figure 2, the fifty percent mortality is when the "height of fall" is between 5 and 6 floors. Hence, the current version, which has us saying "four to five storey heights", is a misinterpretation. —St.Nerol (talk, contribs) 19:59, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

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"Fall"

The usage and primary topic of Fall is under discussion, see talk:Fall (disambiguation) -- 70.51.202.113 (talk) 04:05, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

"A more detailed explanation why a fall happens"

It needs to be explained why a fall happens. Does it happen because someone just smoked a cigarette? Not that likely. Because someone is drunk? Sometimes. This article is about accidential falling, so it should be mentioned. Is it ok to state why it is a hazard to loss balance? Because gravity pulls your body down.

Let's say you wanna create a definition for a parachute, you should mention the simple physical principle:

>>> If you fall from a plane without a parachute, your relatively compact body zooms through the air like a stone; open your parachute and you create more air resistance, drifting to the ground more slowly and safely—much more like a feather. Simply speaking, then, a parachute works by increasing your air resistance as you fall. <<< Source: http://www.explainthatstuff.com/how-parachutes-work.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Da Vinci Nanjing (talk • contribs) 17:48, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

We state why a fall happens in the causes section, not in a badly written first sentence tacked on to the start of the article. For a start, falling isn't always accidental and the person may or may not hit the ground when they fall ... it's possibl to fall into someone's arms or into a net, for example. Graham87 10:05, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

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Need for physics description?

Is it needed to have a physics based description of a fall? Seems inappropriate for a page that is focusing more on the injury type of fall, instead of the physics of falling. Just want to confirm before reverting. Ludus56 (talk) 21:06, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

It seems like an addition made in good faith, though it's the only edit that this person has made. It does put into perspective that the lead of the article doesn't address the direct cause of injury from a fall otherwise (even if it should be obvious), and that it might be served by a paragraph or two describing the epidemiology or the other later sections in the article. The discussion "A more detailed explanation why a fall happens" above addresses this. Reconrabbit 21:25, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Yeah I don't think this is appropriate, especially because of its unreferenced nature and how often Wikipedia content is copied across the Internet. The editor has actually edited before (see the contributions of their /64 IP range), where they made similar off-the-wall (pun?) edits at Hayao Miyazaki. Because they're in a /64 IP range, unfortunately I think the only way to communicate to them to let them know their edits aren't really appropriate is to block them. Graham87 (talk) 03:58, 28 December 2023 (UTC)