Talk:Fairchild 21

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Requested move 13 February 2019

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The result of the move request was: Not moved (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 10:59, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fairchild 21 → Fairchild KR-21 – The Fairchild 21 was a completely different aircraft, a monoplane.^[1]^[2]

References

^ Eckland, K.O. (12 November 2008). "Fairchild, Fairchild-Hiller, Fairchild-Republic, Fairchild-Swearingen". Aerofiles. Retrieved 13 February 2019.
^ "En Amerique". L'air (in French) (227). Paris: 27–28. 15 April 1929.

Petebutt (talk) 10:28, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose not that I dont disagree with you Pete but when I started this article in 2009 it was about the Fairchild 21 monoplane, in 2015 somebody clearly didnt know the difference and added the picture and tweaked the article to talk about the KR-21. My suggestion would be to revert this back to the pre-2015 article about the Fairchild 21 monoplane and create a new article for the KR-21. MilborneOne (talk) 18:58, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just to note that a lot of the references and the specs go back to the original monoplane article so if it was moved it would need a major re-work to remove all the "Fairchild 21" monoplane stuff which makes a move not such a good idea. MilborneOne (talk) 19:03, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose move - Per Milb, keep article about the Fairchild 21, and create a new one for the biplane. Pinging the user who converted the article, User:Andy Dingley, to get his view/sources. - BilCat (talk) 21:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose move, oppose split. It's pretty rare for an aircraft design to switch from a biplane to a monoplane, probably even rarer for one to go the other way. However AFAIK, that's what happened here. Now if that's not what happened, show some sourcing for it. Note also that not only did the design switch from monoplane to biplane, but two of the actual aircraft were converted.

Nor did this aircraft begin as the Fairchild 21, as Fairchild didn't buy into Kreider-Reisner until a year later.

Now, I admit I'm no expert on US light aircraft. But linking a photo of a KR-21-A as a monoplane exactly as this article describes it and then saying "completely different aircraft" is a failure to have even read it first. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:27, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Tips on researching the history of KR-21s?

Hi, my great aunt Mary Goodrich Jenson flew a new KR-21 in the late 1920s or early 1930s. I didn't realize there were so few made. It would be really interesting to find out if any of the remaining KR-21s were originally her plane. Does anyone involved on this page have any clue if that kind of research is possible and if so how to go about it?

Thanks in advance!

Here is an entry on my Great Aunt Mary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Goodrich_Jenson Wjgoodrich (talk) 17:44, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[Aerofilesfairchild-1] Eckland, K.O. (12 November 2008). "Fairchild, Fairchild-Hiller, Fairchild-Republic, Fairchild-Swearingen". Aerofiles. Retrieved 13 February 2019.

[Lair2904227-2] "En Amerique". L'air (in French) (227). Paris: 27–28. 15 April 1929.

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