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Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 11:23, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

No indication of a release date in the body of the article along with a source
Unlink London
Label has the same problem because there is no indication of release date
Producer should have the same formation as genre, for example

Done

Lead

After the demise → a bit exaggerated, no?
lead singer Greg Gilbert recruited his brother Aaron, a keyboardist, into the band after hearing him play a loop. → see below
was certified silver → was certified silver by the British Phonographic Industry (BPI) + wikilink
while all of its singles charted in the UK; → remove
"Long Time Coming" peaked at number 16–the highest peak of the album's singles. → "Long Time Coming" peaked at number 16 on the UK Singles Chart. + wikilink
"Nearer Than Heaven" and "Hey Girl" were released in April and July 2003, respectively → I want peaks, not release dates.
"Nearer Than Heaven" was reissued in March 2004 → mentioned above that after this re-issue it attained its highest peak on the chart
in July that year → In July 2004
Should mention Snow Patrol as well

Done

Background and recording

You failed to mention "Aaron Gilbert (keyboards)", per source

See further down. MusicforthePeople (talk) 14:55, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AllMusic states "the two sets of siblings who would later form Delays -- Greg (vocals/guitar) and Aaron Gilbert (keyboards), and Rowley (drums) and Colin Fox (bass) -- tried to make ends meet as a Brit-pop act." → so Corky was just Aaron and Greg, correct?

I couldn't find any other source for the exact lineup of Corky, so I'm not sure if it was Greg and Aaron, or Greg, Rowly and Colin, or just Greg (and other unrelated people). MusicforthePeople (talk) 14:55, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See below on the overall section. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:10, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delays created Compact Disc (CD) samplers → Delays made CD samplers, (otherwise sounds like they were the inventors of it)
in mid-2001 but this recording was later scrapped → in mid-2001 but it was later scrapped
was interested in techno music; he created a loop of what would → was interested in techno music. At this point, he created a loop of what would
which marked Aaron's introduction to the band → I'm failing to understand this, as it goes against what AllMusic states

See below. MusicforthePeople (talk)

The band slowly → They
by this point, → use another connecter
Aaron Gilbert had been a member of Delays for only a few months → so he was part of the initial band, Greg formed another band and he later joined, is that it?

The source for Aaron's introduction comes from an interview with Delays. So Delays formed with Greg, Rowly and Colin; Aaron only joined later when Greg heard the loop. Delays recorded the album a few months after Aaron joined. I think you might be correct, as you say "he was part of the initial band, Greg formed another band and he later joined", but none of the sources really make it clear. MusicforthePeople (talk) 14:55, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

""Bedroom Scene" and "On" were recorded at Dustsucker Sound in Hackney, London " → who recorded and engineered these ones?
Graham Sutton produced and engineered those tracks; → which one are those? All mentioned before?

Done

Composition

No reason why they chose the title?

Wasn't able to find anything, unfortunately. MusicforthePeople (talk) 14:55, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:03, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Smashing Pumpkins, The Waterboys → wikilink
Elizabeth Fraser.[21][22][23][24] → three sources will be more than enough
What are "walls of guitars"?
"Nearer Than Heaven]] → "Nearer Than Heaven"
"Satellites Lost" is about Gilbert's anxiety about traveling → which Gilbert
Brett Anderson from Suede because it copies the work of Big Star and Jeff Buckley → I don't understand the correlation here

I missed this; was the result of the copyeditor. Fixed. MusicforthePeople (talk) 14:55, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Release

also includes "Way Smooth" and "Over and Out" → includes them as what? B-Sides?
The CD version includes "Chicago" → same as the previous
the seven-inch vinyl → same as the previous
"Nearer Than Heaven" was reissued on 22 March 2004...and the music video for "Nearer Than Heaven". → move to first paragraph
the CD version includes → same as the previous
the 7-inch vinyl edition → same as the previous
was released as The Libertines and The Strokes were reaching the mainstream, → what do you mean?
Release date?

Done

Reception

Table has it 73, should be 70.
Gilbert's voice and → Greg Gilbert's voice and
"Cupid and Psyche '85 era Scritti Politti romanticism" → needs wikilinks
AllMusic reviewer MacKenzie → When evaluating Gilbert's vocals, AllMusic reviewer MacKenzie
Wilson called Faded Seaside Glamour → In a positive review, Wilson called Faded Seaside Glamour
Drowned in Sound's Tom Edward → In a mixed review, Drowned in Sound's Tom Edward
"Nearer Than Heaven" charted at → Initially, "Nearer Than Heaven" charted at
in the UK Singles chart; its reissue → in the UK Singles chart. Its reissue

Done

Track listing

Fine

Personnel

Use Template:Spaced en dash
Remove the small

Done

Charts and certifications

Fine

References

Source check: 4, 5, 50, 52, 55, 56, 69 70, 74 and 75 + every tweet

External links

This is the topic, not the official channel.

It's an upload (see description) from Beggars Group, who own Rough Trade, and by extension, the band's catalogue. MusicforthePeople (talk) 14:55, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Overall

Let me know once you are done.

@MarioSoulTruthFan: Made the changes + comments above. MusicforthePeople (talk) 14:55, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I made some changes, see if you are ok with those. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:23, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me. MusicforthePeople (talk) 16:28, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I believe I found a solution for the problem. You must state that Aaron Gilbert of was part of Corky (like AllMusic). Then, according to the interview, he later joined the band after creating the loop. What are your thoughts? We are sticking to the sources and no WP:OR. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:10, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Does this solve the issue? MusicforthePeople (talk) 17:17, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but add him on the first sentence of the background as well. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:27, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done. MusicforthePeople (talk) 17:31, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]