Talk:Eynsford Castle

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Social history

This section is not only tagged as being almost word-for-word taken from another web site, it is completely unreadable and non-understandable. The original web site is no better (its worse). Deciding that I could not make heads or tails of the impossible to read content, not even to re-write it in a readable form, I found another source, paraphrased to the best of my ability, and I am inserting there. I am being BOLD!Readingwritingrithmatic (talk) 10:38, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can you reference the source...? Hchc2009 (talk) 10:46, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Readingwritingrithmatic, thanks for taking a stab at this. The result, though is what's called WP:Close paraphrasing, where the new text is too close to the original to avoid copyright challenges. Take a look at these two bits of text for example:

"The social history of the castle was characterized mostly by feuds among the Eynsfords and their neighbors, the Kirkeby and Criol families. In the year 1261 the castle and surrounding estates were split among those three families, and there was constant fighting waged over rights to the land. In 1312 the Kirkeby family sold the castle to Judge William Inge. Under the leadership of Nicholas de Criol a group of men forcibly entered Eynsford Castle and ransacked it. As a result of this destruction it seems the castle was abandoned at this time."

"The early history of Eynsford Castle was largely taken over by squabbles between the neighbouring families of Kirkeby and Criol. In 1261 the castle and estates were divided between the families, and they constantly fought over their respective rights. In 1312 the Kirkeby's sold the castle to Judge William Inge. A band of men under Nicholas de Criol broke into Eynsford Castle and ransacked it. The castle seems to have been abandonned after this act of vandalism."

...they are almost identical, which infringes the copyright of the original author. I've reverted for now; if you're having trouble with paraphrasing, and it can be tricky, you might want to try rewriting the same information on the talk page and getting another editor to have a look at it first; there is some useful advice and links on the link above. Hchc2009 (talk) 11:07, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Zawed (talk · contribs) 02:45, 24 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will review this one, comments to follow. Zawed (talk) 02:45, 24 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the delay, missed the review! Changes should be all made now. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:53, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"...Odo was arrested by the King.": I suggest linking the King to William the Conqueror for those not that familiar with English history.

I think someone got there before me! Hchc2009 (talk) 18:53, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"...the lady of Horton Kirby.": Not sure of nomenclature for nobility here but shouldn't lady be title case?

I'm not sure - is it was Lady Horton Kirby, definitely, but if it is just "the lady of..." I don't think it is. Happy to be corrected by any nobility specialists though! Hchc2009 (talk) 18:53, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

link Edward Cresy?

Done. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:53, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

in the architecture section, link "an inner and an outer bailey" (they are linked in the lede)

Ditto, someone got there first. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:53, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

the units used in respect of dimensions are inconsistent; either in metres or feet followed by a conversion. In the history section, metres is used first, while in the architecture section, it is mostly feet used first.

Done. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:53, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the odd missing word as I went through, please doublecheck these.

Look good. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:53, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Image tags check out OK.

Other than the above, the article looks in good shape. Cheers. Zawed (talk) 05:22, 24 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

- All good, passed as GA. Zawed (talk) 09:11, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]