Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 1997/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lajmmoore (talk · contribs) 18:38, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I'll work on reviewing this article over the next few days Lajmmoore (talk) 18:38, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Review

Section x section review

Section x section criteria review
Section	Criteria 1	Criteria 2	Criteria 3	Criteria 4	Criteria 5	Criteria 6
Lead	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y
Location	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y
Production	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y
Format	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	n/a
Participating countries	The final sentence "Countries using televoting ... from being used." could benefit from clarification, as I don't quite understand it Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Might be nice to include some images of other acts performing if they are available? Y
Detailed voting results	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Is there an image of a spokesperson from the event? Y
Broadcasts	Y	Check the one ^{[citation needed]} I added - I assume it will be outlined in the rules? Y	Y	Y	Y	Y
Other awards	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y
Notes and references	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y

Comments

Thanks very much @Sims2alholic8: for nominating a very thorough article. In my review of the criteria as it stands, there is very little to improve. However, I think the article would really benefit from an additional section, or further content about the legacy of the contest. I'm British and vividly remember the 1997 contest, and I would expect by now there to be quite a lot of cultural analysis of the event. I did a short source for a few sources, and these might be useful: Chris West, this on politics, this argue UK acts got more diverse and this seems to argue 1997 was a turning point for Eurovision and queerness? I expect you'll know more about the topic than me, but I really think including more cultural analysis and legacy of the contest would be beneficial. Many thanks for your hard work on the nomination Lajmmoore (talk) 19:26, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lajmmoore: Thanks very much for picking this one up! I've gone through the table above and made the necessary changes you've requested. From an image perspective I have done as best as I can with what is available on Commons; as it is a 25 year old contest free images of the actual contest are nigh on impossible to find, as much as I would love to include them myself, but your request did get me thinking about some additional things to include. As for the legacy section, that's actually quite a good idea and I'll start working on that straight away! I'll loop in back here once it's ready for review. In the meantime if you have any further comments or improvements please do let me know. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:11, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Sims2aholic8 - I absolutely take your point about the images - the 1990s can be so hard to illustrate. I did stumble across this image of Debbie Scerri - is that her at the 1997 event? Commons isn't my strong point though. Looking forward to reading the legacy section! Lajmmoore (talk) 11:45, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lajmmoore: Thanks for flagging that image. That is from the 1997 event, however it looks to me like it's a screengrab from the televised broadcast, so it's actually highly likely that this breaks copyright and I will label as such for an admin to review. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 12:00, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I did wonder, but couldn't work out how to check the metadata. Lajmmoore (talk) 12:11, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lajmmoore: Legacy section is now ready for review. I think I've covered the main points with regards to how the 1997 event has shaped the modern contest, but if there's anything you think I should take another look at then do let me know. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 15:14, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Sims2aholic8 thanks so much. I'll have time later this week, or early next week, to look at it and do the reviewers template. Lajmmoore (talk) 18:45, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Thanks so much for your hard work on the article @Sims2aholic8 - I've now reviewed the edits I suggested, and looked through the new legacy section and believe it meets all the GA requirements. Lajmmoore (talk) 17:42, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]