Talk:Estate houses in Scotland/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: Hamiltonstone (talk · contribs) 12:43, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This article is an excellent overview of its subject.

Article is very well written. I have made a few copyedits.

I would query: "James Smith worked as a mason on the Bruce's..." I think this is Scottish English, but use of "the" in this context will seem strange to non-Scots readers, leading them to backtrack and try and find who the other Bruce was.
"These were largely conventional Palladian style houses that incorporated..." It is not clear what the "These" is here.

The article appears adequately cited, with high-quality references.
The article appears broad and uses summary style. It does raise one issue for me, though: it appears almost exclusively about the architecture of estate houses, and says almost nothing about their use or inhabitants. Can the nominator explain this focus?
The article is neutral and stable.
Images are appropriately licenced, well chosen, and appropriately captioned.

I expect to pass this, but would appreciate clarification about the reason for the relative lack of information about the houses' use and inhabitants. hamiltonstone (talk) 12:43, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking on this review. I think it is a fair point on the architectural focus. Since I first submitted this article I have found a few bits and pieces about life in the houses, so my suggestion is that I add a sub-section about social life at the end. The other minor points I can fix pretty easily, but this might take a bit longer.--SabreBD (talk) 13:28, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK, well let me know once you've got to it, and I'll check it out. What is here, is excellent. hamiltonstone (talk) 13:44, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just to update, I have made good progress on this, but the additions may be a bit larger than I expected. At the moment, my plan is to turn the existing text into a section on architecture and add sections on interiors, gardens and social life. These are larger changes than I normally carry out in a review, so I thought I would flag them up. However, I think they will enhance the article and substantial shift the emphasis from just architecture without losing anything. I still have a bit of research to do, but I am optimistic about completing the task this week.--SabreBD (talk) 07:34, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very happy to keep this open and see how you go. It is an excellent article and will then be even better! hamiltonstone (talk) 03:24, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the new sections (and moved a few things about accordingly). I have also fixed the other minor points raised above. I apologise as this is quite a lot of extra text to add during a review, but I think it does make for a major improvement in the article.--SabreBD (talk) 10:29, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fabulous update. Please check my copyedits to make sure I've not substantially altered any meaning.

What is a commendator? Can it be wikilinked, eg to In commendam?

Done for GA, I really enjoyed this piece and learned a lot about the land of my birth! hamiltonstone (talk) 11:59, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A commendator is basically a lay patron of an ecclesiastical institution. As you suggested I linked to In commendam. Many thanks for a very helpful helpful review and for all that copy editing, which looks fine by the way, but I will take a thorough look later. Thanks again.--SabreBD (talk) 17:17, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]