Talk:Entomology/Archive 1

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Hi. This article has some good information, but try http://encyclopedia.com/html/e/entomolo.asp for some more information! Remember to still keep wikipedia running strong though! The site needs you! -Anonymous-

Why is there a picture of a mammal, specifically a tiger, on the right side of this page? Is this some new classification of insect? 208.230.118.253 18:08, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Picture

Um, dudes, why is there a picture of a leaf in the info box? Why not put liek a bug or um a butterfly? Thnx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.123.234.125 (talk) 01:42, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

It's an insect that looks like a leaf. Look closely. --62.136.150.154 (talk) 21:34, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm sure that more than a few people have been confused by this. At first glance you think, "leaf. so, entomology is the study of leaves? plants?" It is a poor choice of picture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.101.146.232 (talk) 17:09, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

[[File:Cetonia_aurata|thumb|right|250px|Proposed image change - a Rosechafer beetle (member of the largest insect family - the beetles).

I propose replacing it with an unmistakeably insect picture - I have chosen a Featured picture from Commons. I shall wait a week for objections before posting it.

AshLin (talk) 14:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Entomology as evidence of abuse or neglect merging with entomology

I do not think that the two should be merged "Entomology as ...." is a very decent stand alone article and both have enough information to be presented as full articles on their own. I think that people looking for information on insects or entomology in general may not want to peruse through an article that encompasses the sort of subject matter found in forensic entomology. "Entomology as ...." should definitely be linked, but not merged to the main entomology article. The two topics are different enough to be separate. Thank you for reading the article.--Angelar.steinhauer (talk) 21:45, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Commercial Sites?

Under Organizations, the link "Entomology.org" is actually a commercial site that sends people to pest control companies for services. I do not think this should be allowed on this page. If it is, I have a site that offers scores of insect-related software for sale. Trfasulo (talk) 01:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Just feel free to remove links. The problem is external links are seen as a free for all and if the link adder is not adding content into articles in general, it is most likely just spam. Shyamal (talk) 09:25, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Factual error

The site says that insects account for 2/3 of all organisms. This is impossible. I'm not sure what the exact reference is made to but their are far more unicellular organisms than insects. Perhaps they meant 2/3 of all multi-cellular organisms, but in any case this should be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.253.69.116 (talk) 22:13, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Here is the first part of the sentence: "At some 1.3 million described species, insects account for more than 2/3rds of all known organisms..." In that context, it is clear that the 2/3 represents a fraction of the number of species, not the number of organisms.--Geometricks (talk) 15:14, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

TV entomologists as history?

What's with that? It is quite a stretch to place those fictional characters in the history section. Perhaps there could be a popular entertainment section, but I would be more inclined to delete them altogether.--Geometricks (talk) 15:14, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree with your point regarding a separate section so I've implemented it. Untrue Believer (talk) 00:16, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Don't forget to read the book! If we are going to mention TV shows with "entomology," it is only fair to list books too. So I listed some. However, I would like to make the suggestion that this section might be better off further down the page as it is not the "science" of entomology, even if it is related. And if you haven't read The Forgotten Planet or Atta, you have missed some very enjoyable reading. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 03:06, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

it means IDk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.67.113.124 (talk) 23:51, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

"Technically incorrect"

"Though technically incorrect, the definition is sometimes widened to include the study of terrestrial animals in other arthropod groups or other phyla, such as arachnids, myriapods, earthworms, and slugs."

What's "technically incorrect" about this? Based on the etymology of the word, entomology should be the study of any segmented organisms. So slugs might be out, and I could see excluding annelids (even though they're segmented), but surely other arthropods fit in just fine. Is this really representative of a "widened usage?" I'd like to see some historical evidence that entomology has been used in a way that only referred to the study of insects. I'm pretty sure (although I've got no evidence at hand) that arachnids and myriapods have historically been included in entomology, and that attempts to exclude them are recent (i.e. Insecta only entomology is a more restricted recent use, and the wider usage of entomology for the study of (terrestrial?) arthropods is the older usage).192.104.39.2 (talk) 20:36, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk to any entomologist and they will tell you it is the study of insects.....with it sometimes being used to cover non insects such as arachnids etc. Much in the same manner as 'ecology' is used to describe environmental subjects/topics when that is not correct. 111.69.246.160 (talk) 11:31, 18 May 2010 (UTC)Andy

I initiated the topic above as 192.104.39.2. I'm a botanist, not an entomologist. Botanists study plants, algae and fungi. University departments, journals and repositories of scientific specimens specializing in botany often include people/papers/specimens studying algae and fungi. Entomology departments, journals and repositories often include people/papers/specimens studying spiders, mites, centipedes, etc.. The historical and current usage of a term for a scientific discipline can be broader than a strict phylogenetic/etymologic definition. I'm not sure that annelids and gastropods were ever included in entomology, but it seems to be at least a term for the broader study of terrestrial arthropods rather than insects in a strict sense. Plantdrew (talk) 03:57, 11 October 2012 (UTC)