Talk:Emmett Grogan

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In "criticisms of counterculture": Ringolevio is not critical of Allen Ginsberg at all, while it's heavily, heavily critical of Abbie Hoffman. I changed this once before about a year ago and saw someone changed it back; not sure why.

I also removed the bit about him being killed by the 3rd St. Hell's Angels because I heard complaints from several people that this theory is definitely not true. Henrychrist (talk) 23:10, 5 December 2007 (UTC)henrychrist[reply]

You can write whatever you like but I had heard from a reliable source that Emmett knew his way around a needle and pissed off one of the angels who in turn saw that he was given a hot dose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.22.249.51 (talk) 03:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just read his autobiography. It was hard going. Never has someone had such an inappropriatly high opinion of themselves. Not sure if the book was supposed to be a comedy. What a tw4t.

Allegory might be a better word. John celona 20:54, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the claim that Grogan sang backup on an acetate version of Mr. Tambourine Man, which is false. Ramseyman (talk) 01:25, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Backstory needs filling in

Grogan

fled to Ireland, where he fell in with a faction of the IRA and helped blow up a couple of bridges. From there he went to pre-swinging London, where he dabbled in porn, attempted a last big heist, and once again fled just ahead of the law. All this happened before Grogan was 22----IAN MCGILLIS, "The Tough-Guy Hippie Who Helped Define an Era," Globe & Main, Oct. 02, 2009

--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 22:15, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Needs more biographical info

As it stands today, this article mostly echoes the material in the article on the Diggers. It should have more specifically on Grogan. Perhaps some material from Peter Coyote's intro to Ringolevio would work. Paulmlieberman (talk) 13:37, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I read Ringolevio, and according to himself, he was born the november 28th, 1944, as Kenneth Wisdom. He had changed his name (c. 1965) at the Letterman Army Hospital, San Francisco, for Emmett Grogan (Emmet(+t) : a name he liked, and Grogan, his translation of his grandfather's name "O'Gruàgain". In the article, it is writing that he was born in 1942 as Eugene Grogan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.158.26.202 (talk) 13:57, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]