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Reviewer: Rationalobserver (talk · contribs) 21:07, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Lead
[edit]- During his time as a guerrilla, he gained the reputation of a "fierce fighter" and came to be known by the nickname "Hitler" because of his likeness to the Nazi leader.
- Per WP:LEADCITE, these quoted fragments needs inline citations. Alternatively, I would suggest paraphrasing "fierce fighter" and dropping the quote marks from Hitler.
- Fixed.
- opened a string of Nazi-themed restaurants which angered some NATO peacekeepers
- "which angered" is non-restrictive, so it should be swapped with "that angered" or preceded by a comma.
- Fixed.
- Xhinovci firmly believes that he is Hitler reincarnated and resorted to portraying Hitler full-time in his public life
- Copyedit so as to avoid using Hitler twice in this clause.
- Done.
- referred to by locals as "Hitler's children".
- I'd avoid these scare quotes.
- Not done; they aren't actually Hitler's children. It's just what locals call them. Also, the Vice News article uses quotes.
- Xhinovci always carries a copy of Mein Kampf with him
- Although linked, I would indicate Mein Kampf's relevance inline.
- Done.
Early life, emigration and guerrilla activity
[edit]- Looks good
Nazi-themed restaurants and bars
[edit]- Xhinovci responded: "Everyone who is against the people who carried out bloodshed against my people is a friend of mine",
- I found this a bit confusing; i.e., I'm not sure if Xhinovci is a Hitler supporter, which would seem obvious, but still. I think you should copyedit this so his position regarding Hitler is more clear.
- Clarified.
Hitler impersonator
[edit]- With his restaurants and bars closed at every turn,
- "at every turn" should be more encyclopedic.
- Fixed.
- Xhinovci has resorted to walking around Mitrovica dressed as Hitler
- The switch to present tense here seems awkward and inconsistent.
- Hopefully fixed following the removal of "at every turn" (see above)
- Xhinovci firmly believes that he is Hitler reincarnated
- Did he believe this before others noted his resemblance to the Nazi leader, or did this develop afterward?
- Clarified.
- and, like Hitler, he does not smoke.
- This seems like a non sequitur here. Maybe you could tie this in with more behavioral similarities.
- Removed.
- Everyone greets me with "Heil Hitler!".
- Per MOS:CONSECUTIVE, " If a quoted phrase or title ends in a question mark or exclamation mark, it may confuse readers as to the nature of the article sentence containing it, and so is usually better reworded to be mid-sentence."
- Removed the exclamation point, per original quote.
- I'm not sure this section complies with Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, as it's hard to believe that there is no notable opposition to Xhinovci's Hitler impersonations in Mitrovica.
- Added some feedback from a local, plus additional commentary from Vice News. I'll have to look around some Albanian-language portals to see if I can find some genuine apprehension at his actions (although it's unlikely I'll find any since most news reports are based on Una Hajdari's article in Vice). Give me some time to dig through the material.
In popular culture
[edit]- Is there anything notable in the film?
- The article explains the basic premise. The film has a running time of 15 minutes and just follows him around Mitrovica. It premiered at Kosovo's Dokufest in August 2013. It's available online. That's about it.
Sourcing
[edit]- The Guardian should be italicized.
- Done.
Conclusion
[edit]The article is well-written, verifiable, and stable; however, I have some concerns about its neutrality (GAC#4), particularly the assertion that nobody in Kosovo dislikes Xhinovci's Hitler impersonations, which also speaks to the depth of coverage (GAC#3). It would be nice to have an image of Xhinovci so that readers could get a visual of the physical similarities between he and Hitler, but if no free images exist I'm not sure this comparison would justify a non-free one, but I tend to think it might.
- Thanks for taking the time to review this article. I'll see what I can dig about negative reactions. Give me a few days. 23 editor (talk) 14:17, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- No hurry. Rationalobserver (talk) 15:38, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the time to review this article. I'll see what I can dig about negative reactions. Give me a few days. 23 editor (talk) 14:17, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
I've added negative reaction from a Pristina paper. What do you think? 23 editor (talk) 18:37, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- That certainly helps balance the tone, and while I wish there was more I don't think it's anything that should hold up the nom, so I'll go ahead and pass it! Rationalobserver (talk) 18:41, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. 23 editor (talk) 18:58, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- You're welcome! Nice work! Rationalobserver (talk) 19:03, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
@Rationalobserver: Just a question; do you think it's too late to nominate this for DYK? 23 editor (talk)
- No it's not too late at all; according to Wikipedia:Did you know#Eligibility criteria g: "Articles designated as Good articles within the past seven days, regardless of whether they were expanded, are also eligible." Rationalobserver (talk) 19:07, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
How about a picture?
[edit]If an image is not available, can you at least link to a website under External Links? Yoninah (talk) 23:29, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Done. 23 editor (talk) 23:37, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- The tags in the external link "Tags: terrorist, scum, human trash, trash, moron, imbecile, retard, idiot..."[1] may not be acceptable under WP:BLP.– Gilliam (talk) 14:05, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- "Xhinovci has resorted to walking around Mitrovica dressed as Hitler and posing for pictures with locals, tourists and NATO peacekeepers, charging between 20 and 80 euros per photograph" If he walks the streets waiting to be photographed then this image clealy fails fair use requirements as it is easily replaced (if you live/work/visit the right area) IdreamofJeanie (talk) 14:39, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- I don't believe that would fall under fair use. Any photograph of a living person who ever goes out in public at all could, in principle, be replaced by another one taken by someone else. That doesn't make them all fair game for republishing under the fair use doctrine. —Tim Pierce (talk) 17:31, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Tags in external Liveleak link
[edit]I saw that someone added a Liveleak link, and that it was removed due to some "offensive" tags at the end of the album. It shouldn't really matter at all, the purpose of the link was to provide images - NPOV is for Wikipedia and not for sources.
- Anonimski (talk) 00:36, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
You know what?
[edit]I think this article needs an image of the dude himself, so readers can actually take note of his uncanny resemblance to Hitler. What's the point of having an article about a man that looks like Hitler if readers don't get to see what said man actually looks like with their own eyes? Zakawer (talk) 07:57, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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