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British nationality

The extensive comments on British nationality at this article seam to be somehow disconnected to the article itself. There are no comments on the actual status of Palma, nor the implications of the British law on his case. Perhaps such information should be placed in some other article, say British Antarctic Territory, or at least be compacted and associated with Palma. Mariano(t/c) 14:40, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The relevance is that he appears to be the only person (plus any children he has) to hold British nationality by connection with this Territory. JAJ 23:43, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone even know if Palma has ever used his British citizenship? This article is more about nationality then Palma. Nolamgm 04:16, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I also have no clue about his status, but considering the diplomatic relations between both countries, I would say he doesn't. Perhaps all that info should be moved to the British Overseas Territories citizen or History of British nationality law articles, leaving here only a comment or so. Mariano(t/c) 05:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the following paragraphs from the article based on the discussion above, Nolamgm 12:20, 5 May 2006 (UTC):[reply]

I have re-worked most of the comments below into the British Antarctic Territory article and inserted a one-sentence comment in this article. Hope this is OK. As for whether he has ever used his British citizenship, that's not necessary in order to have it in the first place. JAJ 22:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

your version looks just fine. Thanks. Mariano(t/c) 07:05, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This part of Antarctica also forms part of the British Antarctic Territory which is a British overseas territory. Prior to 1 January 1983, any person born in a British colony acquired Citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies (CUKC) unless the parents were diplomats or enemy aliens (see History of British nationality law). On 1 January 1983, further to the British Nationality Act 1981 a CUKC connected to the British Antarctic Territory became a British Overseas Territories citizen. This status can pass down to the first generation born outside Britain's territories, although it does not grant a right of abode in the British Antarctic Territory (see Belonger status).

Furthermore, on 21 May 2002, any person holding BOTC by connection with the British Antarctic Territory automatically became a British citizen by virtue of the British Overseas Territories Act 2002.

Hence Emilio Marcos Palma is the only known person to hold British nationality by virtue of a connection with the British Antarctic Territory. The same would apply to any of his children.

Reason

Does anybody know the reason why his mother was there when pregnant? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ajuk (talk • contribs) 00:20, 28 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

I read (I'm pretty sure it was in Guiness Book) that the Argentine government specifically flew her there so she could give birth on Argentine Antarctic soil and thus bolster Argentina's claim to the area (having a native-born person on the territory) --Canuckguy 16:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why he gets Argenitne citizenship

Does anyone have the legal answer to this question: does the child of Argentine parents (or of only one Argentine parent) get citizenship no matter where they are born? If so then he gets citizenship both by parentage and by location, and I will put a "both ... and" in the article. Springnuts (talk) 07:40, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the parents still have to make some paperwork, but the answer is yes. --Againme (talk) 21:33, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

His name

His actual common name is Emilio Marcos. Using the Spanish convention for names Marcos is his father's name and Palma his mother's name, so he would use Marcos as his surname. http://labnegra.blogspot.com/2011/02/la-historia-de-emilio-marcos-el-primer.html therefore suggest the name of this article should be changed to reflect this. 118.136.164.39 (talk) 17:57, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Marcos is his middle name, Parma is his father's surname. Here in Argentina (unlike Spain and other Latin American countries), children are usually registered with their father's surname only. Mother's surname can be added too, but that's not usual. Faezdel (talk) 00:05, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, if I am not mistaken in my interpretation of Argentine naming customs his mother's surname was Morella? --HarryHenryGebel (talk) 17:10, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Conflicting Birthdate

So on the Colonization of Antarctica it says he was born on january 7, 1978. However, on his actual page, it says January 7, 1979. So which one is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8A0:7B61:1B00:EC09:74F3:C00F:19F7 (talk) 13:54, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]