Talk:Embraer/FMA CBA 123 Vector

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Fate of the two prototypes?

Hi, maybe it'd be interesting to add to the article what happened with the two prototypes built, after the project was cancelled. I was unable to find that information on the Internet. Can anyone please comment on this?
Thanks & Regards, DPdH (talk) 02:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DPdH. One prototype (PT-ZVB) is preserved indoors at Musal (pt:Museu Aeroespacial), at Afonsos Air Force Base (ICAO code SBAF) in Rio de Janeiro. The other prototype (PT-ZVE) is at MAB - Memorial Aerospacial Brasileiro, a permanent (unfortunately) open space exhibition located in São José dos Campos city, very close to Embraer HQ main entrance (coordinates 23° 13.353'S / 45° 51.655'W) at São José dos Campos Airport (ICAO code SBSJ). RobertoRMola (talk) 14:34, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done – see Embraer/FMA CBA 123 Vector#Aircraft_on_display. Also includes the location of the 3rd (FMA-built) prototype. D271l (talk) 19:56, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

More spex

Source: http://www.x-plane.org/home/lemonade/cba123_br.html#start (downloaded attached file)--Mack2 (talk) 21:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The CBA-123 was developed jointly by Embraer (of Brazil) and FMA ("Frabrica Militar de Aviones" of Argentina) as a replacement for the successful EMB-110 Bandeirante. This joint development supplies the "CBA" designation, standing for "Cooperation Brazil & Argentina".

Production began in 1990 when a very small number of brazilian aircraft were manufactured for testing for certification. Vector's failure to attract firm orders delayed that certification indefinitely, however. The Brasilia's fuselage (although shortened) combined with the tractor turboprop engines, pylon mounted from the rear fuselage, driving six-bladed propellers make this aircraft unique. The benefits of the tractor engines not disturbing the airflow over the wings comes at a weight distribution penalty, leaving the entire program in doubt.

First flight: 15-March-1991 (2nd Prototype: PT-ZVE)

Span..: 54.00 ft Length: 53.12 ft Height: 18.41 ft

Wing sweepback (1/4 profile chord line) = 8∞ Surface loading 350 kg/m2 Airfoil: Root=EA 160316 (16%), Tip=EA 160313 (13%)

Max. takeoff weight.: 17,000 lb Max. landing load...: 16,650 lb Max. zero-fuel mass.: 15,200 lb Unloaded weight.....: 10,800 lb

Max. fuel weight....: 2,160 lb Max. pay load.......: 4,400 lb

Max. cruising speed.: 320 kt / 30,000 ft Economical cruising speed: 307 knots

Max. flight altitude: 40,000 ft Service ceiling.....: 35,000 ft

Take-off run........: 0.75 nm Landing run.........: 0.75 nm

Initial rate of climb: 2,350 feet/min Max. climbing performance: 41.7 ft/s = 2,502 ft/min

Max. range: 748 nm (= 2.0 hr) Range at max cruising speed with max fuel and 9 passengers: 1,000 nm (= 2.56 hr)

Capacity: Flightcrew of two with main cabin seating for 19 passengers at three abreast in the commuter configuration

Performance: 1,219 PS Propellers.: six-bladed counter rotating, constant speed, sailing position Powerplants: (2) Garrett TPF351-20A turboprops

Cost?

Clearly $5million is an incorrect figure for it's price. Turbo-prop aircraft built today (Dash 8s), cost about 15-30 mill (give or take). In 1990, a much more reasonable figure for this plane to be is 50 or so million. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.79.161.243 (talk) 02:16, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The planned proce tag for the aircraft was $4.6 million according to a 1990 Air International article.Nigel Ish (talk) 17:25, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Request photos of the unfinished 3rd prototype in Córdoba, Argentina

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The uncompleted third prototype is on outdoor public display in Córdoba, Argentina, at the School of Exact Sciences of the National University of Córdoba (UNC). It shouldn't be difficult to get photos of the CBA-123. The prototype is out in the open, right next to Avenida Vélez Sarsfield, a couple blocks south of the Plaza de las Américas.D271l (talk) 22:05, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]