Talk:Emancipation of minors
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Would like to add external link
[edit]U.S. Age of Majority Table this site has several guides to emancipation in different states, and has a nice table that shows age of majority for those states. Pending no objection in one week will add link... --69.251.192.171 (talk) 23:43, 9 January 2008 (UTC) Link Added...--69.251.192.171 (talk) 22:20, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Stub for Laws by Country
[edit]Added a section stub notice to the Laws by Country sectiom. This section is evidently incomplete as it clearly states that the section should cover other countries, but only currently covers two states, both in the USA. I also believe the whole article to be a stub, and therefore will add a whole article stub notice under the International Law category
This really has nothing to do with International Law, it's Family Law. I removed the Intl Law category designation.
- Actually isn't it purely American law? I don't think the term is used elsewhere.Royalcourtier (talk) 08:22, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
California Question!
[edit]- "In Californian law, the minor must be at least 14, be living apart from his/her parents, and be proven to have the means to support him/herself. An emancipated minor has the ability to legally sign for himself/herself, something a normal minor cannot do."
Is this accurate, and is it as simple as this or does the minor need any other reasons or comply with other conditions. Igorndhaswog 00:37, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
- "In Illinois the requirments for most things is seventeen years of age do I need to be emancipated at seventeen or are the respects of leaving appropriate. In other words can I up and leave like a typical eighteen year old if I'm not happy with my family's way of living. Suppose i work 30 hours a week and get passing grades in school, if i can afford it then why can't I? I guess what I'm trying to ask is can we leave at seventeen?" Anonymous 00:00, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- In Cal., it is extremely rare and difficult for minors aged 14 to 17 to be emancipated, be placed into foster care or another guardian by voluntary choice. Minors in California due to the state constitution: the adult age of 18 and the drinking age 21 which is considerably the real adult age, is strictly enforced, are placed into a restrictive category thus their legal and social status is low. Minors cannot speak for themselves nor have an attorney in the state family court and state/county juvenile court hearings, including cases when the minor is a defendant/ suspect of a juvenile law crime. Usually the judge places them into custody of the next of kin (biological, not necessarily legally defined families, like relatives by-marriage or in-law) within the limits of county and state jurisdiction, and intra-state or international custody battles of where a minor can move in with, have low value in laws of our 50 states and the United States. It is difficult to be adopted as much it is to be emancipated, along with the paternalistic authoritarian foster care system in the last 40-some years proved to be a disaster. A teenager is simply told by authorities to "live with your folks, don't run away from home, attend or stay in public school, earn your HS graduation diploma and find a part-time job afterward" instead of defending the minor's right to escape from abusive parents and/or a dysfunctional home. Mike D 26 (talk) 07:18, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
DON'T GET IT
[edit]Emancipation. Emanacipation! Whatever. Nobody can offer information on this subject to me. I always rely on Wikipedia to give me all this great information. Ive searched everywhere for information, Councilers, teachers, police officers, web pages, librarys and every where elese. Why is this topic not out there? Is our government afraid of too many minors being granted this right? If anyone has any information regarting minor imacipation, especialy in the states of arkansas and missouri, please post information here. Share information and help make some lifes better. Pecas
--68.46.245.35 02:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)Angel
- Unfortunately, Arkansas and Missouri don't have emancipation laws.. Meaning that they don't offer emancipation. It is not impossible to break new legal ground however it is close to it... ~~----
- I was emancipated by court order in the state of Virginia at age 17, back in February of 2007. So, I'm very familiar with the emancipation process. I've edited the article, and I'm happy to answer any questions you have.Piercetheorganist
Not true. Emancipation in Missouri exists for minors as young as 17. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.47.159.147 (talk) 07:23, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
- He meant the state of Mississippi (their adult age remains in 21), Alabama (age 19) and the majority of (by surprise) southern states, where a deeper social conservative culture runs deep in state and local politics. The more liberal and progressive Northern (esp. East coast) states seem to lean toward emancipation laws, except they are declared useless in the early 21st century. Take a look at New York, California and Illinois are two states where self-emancipation was made impractical and the child divorce laws in Florida are treated like a legal oddity about to be repealed in any moment. Has the USA declared teens inable to live their own lifes until they turn a certain age or obtained a high school diploma? There's a moralistic psuedo-religious or a political correct statist conspiracy against children and teenagers. It is up to the parents to "own" them, society to devalue them and the state to control them because teenagers are minors. Mike D 26 (talk) 07:35, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Rights
[edit]The article says that in most cases, emancipated minors have the same rights as adults in regard to purchasing tobacco, pornography, lottery tickets, and firearms. I was under the impression that to buy these things, you had to be a certain age. I thought that the law specifically said that you had to be 18 or 21 to do these things. I even asked my law studies teacher about it, and he said that the age restrictions would probably still apply, even if a minor was emanicpated. Could someone please clarify this for me? Emperor001 20:45, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Clarification: the article as I, an emancipated minor, rewrote it said "...excluding...". The moron at 209.247.21.237 vandalized it. I've changed it back. You are correct, all ATF laws still apply. Emancipation only relates to matters of consent and matters of finances--it allows you to live essentially an adult life...work, sign contracts, seek healthcare, etc.
- What about things like watching R-rated movies that a minor can only due if a partent consents? Also, what about signatures that schools make students get on progess reports? Can an emancipated minor sign his/her own progress report? Emperor001 23:08, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, you can sign your own progress reports. You can sign anything--all legal documents (i.e. legal papers, medical consent forms, armed forces sign-up forms, financial documents, etc.). In that respect, you have absolutely the exact same rights as an adult. There is nothing you cannot legally sign on your own. Piercetheorganist 23:54, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- What about things like watching R-rated movies that a minor can only due if a partent consents? Also, what about signatures that schools make students get on progess reports? Can an emancipated minor sign his/her own progress report? Emperor001 23:08, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- R-rated movies? Yes, you're allowed to, because you are your own guardian (same as an adult) and can therefore decide what you will and will not expose yourself to. Some states issue you an emancipated minor ID card, which would make it a lot easter getting past the ticket booth if they card you. Personally, I never had an problem, but unless you can show them some sort of state-issue emancipated minor ID they probably aren't going to let you in under 18. Really, that kind of stuff isn't addressed by the legal system, because kids that are in a position to be emancipated are kids who are very serious about needing to work and go to high school and try to put themselves thru college. Emancipated minors typically aren't rich trust-fund babies who have the time and money to be able to afford to kick back and go watch R-rated movies. Most emancipated minors work several jobs to pay rent, etc., cuz they leave home with $0.00; like my attorney said about the rarity of emancipations: "no judge in his/her right mind is going to emancipate a kid with a big trust fund; emancipated minors are expected to be hard workers and keep a low profile...not move out, buy a nice car, blast death metal till 4 AM, consume alcohol and illicit drugs, etc." Refer to the part of the article which says "On the other end of the spectrum are minors who are seeking emancipation for superficial reasons, such as not being pleased with their parent's/guardian's rules. In those cases, the emancipation will most likely be denied." -- emancipation isn't for "we just can't get along; everyone's always yelling at everyone else all the time; I hate being told what to do, I want to be able to say how drunk I can get and how late I can stay out; rules suck; I hate my parents; etc."...emancipation is for "there is a solidly-documented and ongoing situation of emotional/verbal abuse in the household, and I've proven by working hard, steady jobs for several years that I can fully support myself financially and that I am a responsible and law-abiding person who can and will contribute to society and maintain a low profile". Basically, you need to prove to the judge that you can and will support yourself, that you won't give the police or other citizens any trouble, that you won't end up on welfare, that you're insanely mature and calm, that this is the right thing for you beyond the shadow of a doubt, etc. In other words, you basically need to be Jesus and Draco needs to be your dad. Piercetheorganist 23:54, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
I am a older sister... 67.181.70.28 06:37, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
- I have removed your post because it is extremely not appropriate to put that on Wikipedia. This talk page is for discussions about the writing of the article only. You're seeking legal strategies and advice, and it sounds like you need counseling. Not only is it dangerous for you post something like that here, it is also inappropriate, and it is dangerous for Wikipedia and anyone who gives you legal advice. PLEASE get the help you need, but get it from the correct forum--go to a lawyer and a counselor, not a Wikipedia talk page. There are plenty of accredited free online legal resources for people in crisis, where you can speak to actual lawyers who can give you sound legal advice and help protect you. Piercetheorganist 23:39, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
In Ohio it's illegal to emancipate yourself, and I see a lot of people going through hard times that need this right, but it's forbidden. I don't understand that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.27.141.33 (talk) 03:05, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
- In most states in the year 2011, self-emancipation of minors is illegal and will never be approved of by county and state juvenile courts. In states where it is legal, the current-day mentality of teenagers are "grown kids" made self-emancipation relatively impossible and these laws may be shelved to the history bin of repealed legislation. What about proof of evidence these teens are under threat of domestic violence or emotional/verbal angst, and being treated like a financial burden or high-risk to be abandoned by their biological parents? The question is the legality of minors have rights as US citizens in all 50 states and how the United States is the toughest country for children and teens to grow up in, when it comes to recognition of their civil rights regardless of age. Mike D 26 (talk) 07:22, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Middle ground
[edit]"Emancipations are rarely granted, because of the narrowness of the definition of "best interest". On one end of the spectrum are minors who have been victims of abuse; in most cases, the state's department of child services is notified and the child is placed in foster care. On the other end of the spectrum are minors who are seeking emancipation for superficial reasons, such as not being pleased with their parent's/guardian's rules. In those cases, the emancipation will most likely be denied."
Why doesn't this article describe middle ground such as a (hypothetical) minor's guardian dies and the next legal guardian lives somewhat far away and the minor requests to get emancipated? Would it be at all possible to get emancipated in such a case?
Overall, this article is a good start, but I think it could describe more, unless there really is so little info on it. LtDonny 18:55, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- You hit the nail on the head, LtDonny -- there is very little information available on the topic. I speak from experience, as I was emancipated. If you read the actual text of the emancipation statute in states which have one, you'll notice that it's one of the most archaic laws on the book, as child/family laws go -- emancipation was originally developed for children who needed to leave home in order to move elsewhere and work so that they could support their families -- it goes back to the 1800s, to the days where rural areas were largely poverty-stricken and the best shot you had of a paying job (and, in many cases, getting an education) was to go apprentice yourself to a tradesman in a more urbanized area. Bear in mind that the man to whom you were apprenticed was your master and he quartered you and apprenticed you in exchange for your hard work. Learning a trade was your only shot at moving up in the world -- i.e. being able to support yourself and send money back home to your family to support them. In that sense, it is somewhat similar to the way in which illegal immigration functions today. It is only recently (i.e. within the last 30 years or so) that emancipation has been used to free mature minors from abusive/alcoholic/dysfunctional homes. That said, it is used so very very rarely -- consider the number of teenagers who hate their parents' rules and think they could do just fine on their own (probably most teenagers), versus the number who get emancipated, or even know what emancipation is (very very few). Unfortunately there are no statistics available (to the best of my knowledge and research) as to the exact numbers of emancipations throughout recent history, and that speaks to the fact that it is a largely-unknown, little-used legal mechanism. I know that when I was emancipated (in a not-so-rural area of northern Virginia), I was the first emancipatee in 24 years in that county. Some states don't even have an emancipation law on the books. So the article, as I and others have written it, seems to contain all the readily-available information on the subject of emancipation -- the websites referenced are the only ones which seem to contain any kind of info/data on the topic. Piercetheorganist 07:08, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
- I find your comments on the history of emancipation interesting and would love to see some of this information in the article.Peter Chastain (talk) 03:08, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- As to the question you asked ("Why doesn't this article describe middle ground such as a (hypothetical) minor's guardian dies and the next legal guardian lives somewhat far away and the minor requests to get emancipated? Would it be at all possible to get emancipated in such a case?"): the answer is maybe. The basis for granting an emancipation is whether or not the minor can prove to a judge, beyond reasonable doubt, the he/she is capable of living on his/her own -- being able to function in society as a contributor (pay taxes, follow laws, hold a job, etc.). So the minor needs to demonstrate that they are calm, mature, reasonably intelligent, familiar with the basic laws of our society, that they have a steady paying job and a place of their own to live, that they have a clean track record as far as infractions with the law are concerned, and that they generally will be a contributor to society rather than an obnoxious, arrogant punk kid who's going to go to parties and get drunk and high, and blast loud music, and drive over the speed limit, and be generally disrespectful. So basically you have to convince the judge that you're an adult even though your age isn't quite there yet. In some cases, there is a genuine need to remove you from a dysfunctional household, but the judge won't believe that you're mature/experienced enough to function on your own, in which case the state's children's services department will be called in to devise a suitable living situation (usually a foster home). Piercetheorganist 07:08, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
USA bias
[edit]I think this article is not particularly encyclopaedic! Why is there no section on emancipation in other countries apart from America? Contrary to popular belief there is a world outside of the USA!! 131.111.195.8 (talk) 00:54, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- That's what the {{Globalise/USA}} tag is for, and since I agree with you I've added it to this article. I've also put a {{fact}} tag next to the assertion that emancipation is possible in "most countries", since I think that requires proof. Incidentally, a Google search for "emancipation of minors" among .uk sites only gives ZERO hits, and I (from the UK) have never heard the phrase used outside an American context. It is not, as the article and many of the Talk page comments seem to assume, an everyday subject for everyone. Loganberry (Talk) 14:36, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- I've contributed very substantially to this article, because I was emancipated this time last year and so have quite a bit of personal experience with the topic. My intents here have been in good faith, and I consider all the knowledge I've contributed to be spot-on encyclopedic. What's NOT encyclopedic is making comments here such as "Contrary to popular belief there is a world outside of the USA!!" -- again, I feel that I've worked very hard here in good faith, and I do resent that you (131.111.195.8) have assumed otherwise...and, furthermore, been so arrogant as to inject your personal anti-USA political views into this. THAT SAID -- I do agree that this article is overall specific to the emancipation process in the United States. That's the case simply because I, as an American emancipated in the USA, simply have no experience with which to write about emancipation in other countries. It's not some sort of conspiracy to edge out knowledge pertaining to other nations -- it's simply that I, the main contributor, have a lack of knowledge thereof. If you, or another foreign national, DO have verifiable encyclopedic knowledge to contribute on the topic of emancipation: then please, by all means, do so! I agree that the article would benefit from it. But please, in your future dealings, assume good faith rather than come in with anti-USA attacks. Mr. P. S. Phillips (talk) 02:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Read all about it! Wikipedia has brand new NPOV and civility guidelines. Oh wait, they've been there for ages. Huh, perhaps certain users should read them and stop looking like a dick. --Pumpmeup 16:10, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- Something about that sounds inherently self-contradictory/hypocritical. I think it's the sarcasm and the use of words like "dick" as adjectives to describe people. I don't see a lot of good faith there, nor benefit to this article. This article is good so far, but does need some work. Perhaps you have something useful and neutral to contribute to it, in good faith? Mr. P. S. Phillips (talk) 17:47, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- Read all about it! Wikipedia has brand new NPOV and civility guidelines. Oh wait, they've been there for ages. Huh, perhaps certain users should read them and stop looking like a dick. --Pumpmeup 16:10, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- I've contributed very substantially to this article, because I was emancipated this time last year and so have quite a bit of personal experience with the topic. My intents here have been in good faith, and I consider all the knowledge I've contributed to be spot-on encyclopedic. What's NOT encyclopedic is making comments here such as "Contrary to popular belief there is a world outside of the USA!!" -- again, I feel that I've worked very hard here in good faith, and I do resent that you (131.111.195.8) have assumed otherwise...and, furthermore, been so arrogant as to inject your personal anti-USA political views into this. THAT SAID -- I do agree that this article is overall specific to the emancipation process in the United States. That's the case simply because I, as an American emancipated in the USA, simply have no experience with which to write about emancipation in other countries. It's not some sort of conspiracy to edge out knowledge pertaining to other nations -- it's simply that I, the main contributor, have a lack of knowledge thereof. If you, or another foreign national, DO have verifiable encyclopedic knowledge to contribute on the topic of emancipation: then please, by all means, do so! I agree that the article would benefit from it. But please, in your future dealings, assume good faith rather than come in with anti-USA attacks. Mr. P. S. Phillips (talk) 02:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Emancipation is a common-law concept freeing a child from parental ownership, as children were once seen as their fathers' chattel, like slaves. The derivative parental control remains in some jurisdictions and not in others, so even among common-law countries emancipation isn't universal. In the UK, where the idea of children as chattel has long gone, emancipation is a dead concept. Similarly in Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand, which have followed a similar route. It remains in USA, Canada and South Africa. I think you'd have to wade through all common-law countries to find out exactly where emancipation is available. Jonh333 (talk) 07:34, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
- The reason there are no UK hits on juvenile emancipation is that the UK treats children fundamentally differently from the US. Let me see if I can give my foreigner's (English) understanding of emancipation in the US and explain why it doesn't apply in English (or Scottish) law. I gave the tldr above.
- US law is all about competing rights and responsibilities. The child, the state, and the parents all have competing rights. When the rights of the minor compete with those of the parent, the parent wins out almost every time. (Rare exceptions include the expanding rights of adolescents in health decisions[1], but these were primarily introduced to treat drug addiction and STDs, which adolescents might be afraid to tell their parents about, and grew out of states' rights to prevent unchecked epidemics.) A parent has the duty to raise the child and is given custody and control until the child has reached an age of maturity. The parent must provide for and manage the minor's accommodation, food, finances, contractual obligations, education – pretty much everything. The minor doesn't and cannot, except with the parent's permission. So American kids can't legally arrange their finances or enter into enforceable contracts, etc. Where the rights of the state and the rights of the parent clash, the state has to show a compelling interest. This exceeds the level of need it must show when the state's rights clash with the child's. A minor's constitutional rights are watered down relative to those of an adult, which is why US jurisdictions can impose indefinite juvenile curfews on minors but not on adults, and why the presence of a parent may obviate such a curfew. In the case of Gault, 1967,[2] the right of the state, as parens patriae, to deny to the child procedural rights available to his elders was elaborated by the assertion of the US Supreme Court that a child, unlike an adult, has a right "not to liberty, but to custody." The tide may be turning from this paternalistic understanding of children's rights, but it turns slowly.
- An individual's recognized age of maturity defaults to the age of majority defined by each state. At this age the rights of control and most of the duties of the parents to the child cease, and minors take on their own responsibilities. They can manage their own finances, enter into contracts, file lawsuits on their own behalf, etc. In some states a parental duty to support may extend past this time.
- Recognition of maturity doesn't just come with age; it can happen through circumstance. If someone under the age of majority controls ther own life independently of either parent, they can be declared emancipated by a court, taking away all legal rights and duties of the parent and giving them to the child to handle on their own behalf. (Even parental obligations that would have persisted past the age of majority.) This is the common law status of emancipation. Emancipation also increases the rights of the minor with respect to the state (although by how much is moot).
- I think of it as the legal recognition of an existing situation rather than a judicial order to split up (although it can be either in some states, where a court can grant emancipation as an alternative to the care of child services[3]). The court may declare a minor emancipated if it is relevant to a judgement in a particular legal case, or on petition in about half the states. For example, while there is no statutary procedure to petition for emancipation in Ohio, a married 17 year old would almost certainly be granted rights implied by the condition of emancipation[4]. [The idea that courts in states which don't provide procedures for it also don't recognize or rule on emancipation is wrong.[5]]
- The status of a child in England is different. The days when children were viewed as chattel are gone. Parents have custody and schools temporary custody, but the idea of some absolute control is absent. Parental rights don't mean what they do in the USA. Parents and the local authority both have a duty of care, only the child has strict rights. As the judge Elizabeth Butler-Sloss memorably ruled: "the child is a person, not an object of concern."
- If the parents, local authority and the child disagree, a judge in the family court will sort it out in favour of the judge's notion of the child's interests. A child has the right to have everything explained at the level of his/her comprehension. A child has the right to be heard, and to have their wishes taken into account if the judge believes they have sufficient understanding. Nowhere here is the idea of a particular age involved, although in practice, teenagers will be listened to more than younger children. If "Gillick competent", an under 16 may consent to medical treatment without parental consent or even knowledge (over 16s always can). Contract law for minors is complicated.In England the age at which you are presumed capable for all contracts is 18, in Scotland, 16 (ish). If younger, the test focuses on the nature of the transaction, and whether the minor is of an age such that they are capable of understanding it. In England a contract for necessities will be enforced on the minor (accomodation, employment, education, food, etc), where one for frivolities can be later voided by the minor. Many adults won't enter into a contract with a minor for fear that it will not be enforceable, even when it probably would be. Unlike in France, a child cannot directly own real estate, but needs to have it held on their behalf.
- The almost overriding control granted to American parents along with their duties isn't there in the UK. Child rights are stronger relative to the USA, both with respect to parents and the local authority, as long as the minor displays the relevant level of capacity/maturity. As there is no overriding control, there is no need for a recognition of release from it. Nor are constitutional rights watered down, requiring an adult upgrade.
- I'm no lawyer, so this is just one layman's understanding. Jonh333 (talk) 13:25, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
References
Age of consent exception
[edit]The article describes that an emancipated minor can do anything an adult can do with a list of exceptions that take effect at age 18 on average. This is US biased as mentioned above, since it is 19 for smoking and drinking in Canada (not to mention, 21 for drinking in the US, not 18, this is not mentioned). But anyway, age of legal consent for sexual activity is another concern. Usually age of consent is equal to or less than the age of majority (18ish) meaning all adults have this ability. However, if a minor is emancipated before reaching the age of legal majority, they would be unable to have sex just as they would be unable to drink and stuff. I am unsure just how early it is possible for some minors to become emancipated, but this is probably noteworthy. While fiction is not relevant, Bart Simpson, would be a good example of someone emancipated (in fiction) who is below the age of consent. Tyciol (talk) 10:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
- Canadian, European and other developed country laws seem to grant 14, 15, 16 and 17 year olds more rights as citizens with equal protection under the law; and 18, 19 and 20 year olds can legally purchase, possess and consume alcohol while they proved to be eligible to serve in their nations' armed forces. The USA was a victim of reactionary political and moralist movements in the 1980's and 1990's, combined with efforts by PC activism to decreased the social status of teenagers has brought catastrophic results. It is no wonder teens growing up in today's America are more clinically depressed, cannot handle public education (high school) and ineligible to obtain their first summer part-time job. Also they are binge-drinking on college campuses and most younger drivers aged 18-21 (or 22-25) no longer can afford monthly auto insurance costs, esp. males, than in the past. They are brought up as "grown kids" the reverse of "little adults" when they are toddlers or pre-pubescent, thus the so-called "age of innocence". Because the US and all 50 state constitutions invented the idea of adult age in the 19th and 20th centuries, including the 26th amendment enacted in 1971 to move the voting age from 21 to 18, to be consisent with the Vietnam era military draft at the time, does not mean they are now "inequal" under federal and state laws. In the 1970s, there was controversy also whether to include women as "equal" with men to be required to be in the military draft, and that law known as the ERA (Equal Rights Amendment) failed to pass of a majority of US states by 1980. Mike D 26 (talk) 07:29, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Didn't the apologists/screenwriters for The Simpson's say that Bart didn't do ... that ... ? Or were you implying something else? But back on subject, an emancipated minor can have sex but only with another emancipated minor that is not legally of age and is within the other minor's "age range" (e.g. 14-15, 16-17, 18+). But, if the significant other is not of age and is NOT emancipated, then that would be deemed illegal and the emancipated minor will be charged like an adult, but will be charged for having sex with a minor, not underaged sex (because it is not an age problem but a responsibility one in this case only). The sig. other will be charged for underaged sex but will be treated as a minor. Hehe I found a loophole in the law :)Techdawg667 (talk) 02:06, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Please help a parent
[edit]I have read all the discussions and definitions for Emancipation but what about parents? I admit to being to getting a girl pregnant early in my 20's. We discussed it and I agreed to pay money every month, do all the fatherly things, and buy her a car when she turned 16- if- the mom agreed to let me see my daughter, get report cards, and do the general raising.
Now, my daughter is 17, I have gotten one report card her entire school time and my visits have stopped. Recently she dropped out of school, got pregnant and NOW they are taking me to court saying I didn't keep my end of the deal because I didn't buy her a car and I don't pay them enough.
Do I have any rights to have her emancipated since she has made adult decisions? Why less than a year before she turns 18 is the court getting involved? Any help would be great- we live in Missouri if that helps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.109.230.142 (talk) 17:02, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not the place to seek legal advice. Please consult a professional qualified in that area for your problems. --Whip it! Now whip it good! 05:11, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Request for help
[edit]ok so im at school looking up the things you have to do to get emancipated... and i feel that this really doesnt make any sence if you have a job.you are stable enough to have your own place and you are responsible. i dont see why you cant get the grant to be emancipated.what if you live in an unstable house hold and your parents do drugs but you dont want to tell people. wat if your mom gets beat on by her boy friend ,and your tired of hearing them screaming and yelling all the time.what if your parents take all your money and dont care about the things you need.how about if there always calling you out of your name and dont give you any respect?that petty much says that there not helping you so you can do better by your self............. so if any one has an answer to my question please let me know.....<ms. lonely> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.131.30.3 (talk • contribs) 15:41, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not the place to seek legal advice. Please consult a professional qualified in that area for your problems. —Finell (Talk) 18:05, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Florida laws
[edit]In need of mentioning is Florida's emancipation law known as "Child Divorce", the only law of its kind in the world. In the 1990's and 2000's, about 5 cases of teenagers divorced their parents due to abuse, neglect and mismanagement of the income spent on drugs or alcohol, and lack of proper family love and support. The media massively reported the cases and lead to national public outcry, family rights activists were divided and conservative moralists reacted with disapproval. No other state in the union considered adaptation of the Florida-style law and other states like California made more difficulty for child emancipation, including a requirement to have an annual income of $1 million or they could be legally able to inherit guardians' incomes. Also any threat of a teenager to desire leaving the parents' home can be a crime and they can be sent to a juvenile detention camp until they turn age 18 or 20 (depends on the state), and law authorities will ensure if the minor is out of the United States on family trips, they will never attempt to "run away" or use their age in order to gain political asylum, which the basis varies greatly by country and that is unlikely to happen. + 71.102.12.55 (talk) 20:42, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- Laws regarding emancipation of minors have changed, as society progressed and advanced in recognition of children and teens' rights, the state laws of Florida and California mentioned above, reformed itself to make it easier for cases when a minor cannot be with their parents. Whenever the family reported child abuse, domestic violence, misuse of finances, drug use or addiction, emotional neglect and sexual crimes, the minor can freely leave the situation as he/she wants. Mike D 26 (talk) 07:10, 3 February 2011 (UTC)