Talk:Elizabeth Schuyler Hamilton/Archive 1

Archive 1

Image of Elizabeth Hamilton

When I click on the image, it says that that she was the wife of U.S. president Alexander Hamilton.

Hamilton was not a president. A better description would be "wife of statesman and first Secretary of the Treasury, Alexander Hamilton". Editing of the description of the image seems to be disallowed, but it should be fixed.

jbarntt June 21 2009 9:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbarntt (talk • contribs) 04:02, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Quite. Done. Thank you! --GRuban (talk) 19:34, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I have an original lithograph by Currier & Ives called "Eliza." She's anout 20 yo let me know if interested. 174.204.4.78 (talk) 19:13, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

• Answered here. Lwarrenwiki (talk) 13:43, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Religion

Elizabeth Hamilton is described as "An extremely religious woman". The Hamiltons were Episcopalians, a common denomination at the time and hardly extreme. Either the word "extemely" should be struck, or a citation given to demonstrate the extremity of her views re: religion. jbarntt 17:40, 27 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbarntt (talk • contribs) 17:37, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I Have removed the word 'extremely' as per my previous post jbarntt 19:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Sex scandals

It is stated that Alexander Hamilton was involved in multiple sex scandals: "... and sexual scandals of his life."

Either the plural needs to be removed or a reliable cite given to a sexual scandal other than Maria Reynolds. jbarntt 17:50, 27 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbarntt (talk • contribs)

Fixed, finally. —Luis (talk) 22:00, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Mixed up references - 2 and 5

The facts justified by references 2b, 2c, and 2d are true, but can be found at reference 5 rather than reference 2. (The fact justified by reference 2a is also true and can by found at reference 2.) Thought someone should fix this but reference templates confuse me, so: talk page! Noticed this on 2016-04-04, if it would matter for the 'date retrieved' parameter.

PiNerd3 (talk) 02:31, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

What is she most notable for?

There's been a slow back-and-forth regarding the structure of the lead paragraph, mostly over the importance of Hamilton's marriage to her notability. Here's the diff list:

• 2007-04-07, earliest revision, only mentions marriage
• 2007-04-07, marriage first, lineage added
• 2015-09-21 marriage first, orphanage added, lineage moved out of lead
• 2016-08-07 orphanage first, marriage second
• 2016-11-09 slight tweak that deemphasizes marriage
• 2016-11-09 marriage first, orphanage second
• 2016-12-02 orphanage first, marriage second

What do people think of first when they hear the name "Eliza Hamilton"? Is it "oh yes, I know that name because she founded the first orphanage in New York," or "oh yes, I know that name because she was Alexander Hamilton's spouse"? Ibadibam (talk) 02:10, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Problem is, a marriage in and of itself seldom really make a person notable, except in cases where there is a specific public role of some sort attached to the position (eg, first lady ; queen, etc, in which case that's what we should list first). What they do as part of their marriage, eg in support of their spouse's actions might, but then that's what should actually be emphasized in the lede - not the marriage itself. Something like (name) was an American political figure. As the wife of Alexander Hamilton, she (role in her husband career, summarized) and (role in maintaining his legacy, summarized). She also (orphanage). Or something of the sort.--Guillaume Hébert-Jodoin (talk) 19:01, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

If she's most notable for the orphanage, why is it not otherwise mentioned in the article? 99.139.139.153 (talk) 23:18, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

It is, section "Later life", the whole third paragraph is dedicated to her activity for the Orphan Asylum Society. Please read before commenting. Isananni (talk) 23:45, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Adding picture of Eliza on wikipedia

I have a lithograph by Currier & Ives of Eliza that I wold like to include on here 174.204.4.78 (talk) 19:10, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

I have an original lithograph "Published by Currier & Ives" depicting "ELIZA." that I would like </ref>to enter so that it's in Wikipedia. Eliza would have been about 15 years old. Let me know 72.45.4.91 (talk) 19:18, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

I'm not an expert, but any image should first be uploaded in wikimedia respecting the related rules and then it can be included in Wikipedia pages. Isananni (talk) 20:22, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Currier's wife was named Eliza, and there seem to be several Currier and Ives works titled Eliza. It was a very common first name. What is the proof that your lithograph is a picture of Eliza Hamilton rather than some other Eliza? Lwarrenwiki (talk) 20:39, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

 Closed the request as the page is no longer protected. I suggest after you upload the image, establish a consensus on the talk page for the inclusion of the image in the article. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 07:54, 27 June 2017 (UTC).

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2020

typo, change longfor to long for (with space) Robg121 (talk) 15:53, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks! Favonian (talk) 15:58, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Add space between title and name in Major John André

Add a space between "Major" and "John André". Change "Eliza learned that MajorJohn André" to "Eliza learned that Major John André". Natebass (talk) 08:15, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

 Partly done. Space added, but link removed. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 13:42, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 July 2020

Change "Philip, also called "Little Phil" (June 1, 1802 – July 9, 1884), named after his older brother that had died on year before his birth" to "Philip, also called "Little Phil" (June 1, 1802 – July 9, 1884), named after his older brother that had died one year before his birth"

The word 'one' is missing an 'e'. 2601:285:201:2375:6C4B:5900:DB08:A4A3 (talk) 15:35, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks for spotting that.--agr (talk) 15:58, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2020

The Wikipedia page on Eliza Hamilton (daughter) says that her birth certificate names her Eliza, unlike her mother, whose birth certificate names her Elizabeth. This page lists Eliza Schuyler Hamilton's daughter as "Elizabeth."

Please check both pages for consistency/accuracy. 74.67.192.61 (talk) 21:55, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

 Not done Please provide reliable references. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 17:58, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 August 2020

“in regards to” may be in widespread use but it is not correct usage and should be changed to “with regard to” or, better in this case, to “for”, as in “Eliza is recognized as an early American philanthropist for her work with the Orphan Asylum Society.“ Mjkarlin (talk) 04:41, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

 Done QueerFilmNerd^talk 04:59, 9 August 2020 (UTC)