Talk:Edgar Martínez/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Kaiser matias (talk · contribs) 02:21, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

I'll start reviewing this in the next day or so. Kaiser matias (talk) 02:21, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:

Comments:

* "He was not a highly regarded prospect, and signed with the Mariners as a free agent in 1982 for a small signing bonus." I'd reword to: "Not highly regarded as a prospect, he signed with the Mariners as a free agent in 1982, and was given a small signing bonus."

• • Done. Yousou (Complain) 00:44, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

* "He played with cousin Carmelo Martínez." Where did they play? It's unclear if this was at a youth level, the semipro level, something else.

• • The source cited makes clear this was mere informal childhood playing, I have changed the sentence to indicate such. Yousou (Complain) 00:47, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

* "He played semiprofessional baseball..." Is there any note of what team/league he played for? Not critical to the article, but more information would certainly be a good thing if possible.

• • Many sources confirm the semi-pro element, but I was unable to find a single one that gave specifics, sorry. Yousou (Complain) 01:04, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

* "The Mariners signed him to a contract with a $4,000 signing bonus on December 12, 1982." As noted in the lead this was considered small. That should be mentioned again here as well. Something as simple as "a contract with a $4,000 signing bonus (a small amount at the time)" would be sufficient, just to ensure it's noted.

• • Done. Yousou (Complain) 00:49, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

* "Martínez made his professional debut in Minor League Baseball with the Bellingham Mariners of the Class A-Short Season Northwest League in 1983." Would be good to note his position here.

• • Done. Yousou (Complain) 00:56, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

* "He had a .173 batting average." I'm somewhat familiar with baseball, but no expert. However this sentence is kind of a fragment, and even including something like games played, or home runs (if he had any) would be good to expand it a bit. Even noting if it was over the whole season or part of it, anything to give a little context.

• • It would usually mean the whole season/year; nevertheless I also added the zero home runs and 18 hits for added context. Yousou (Complain) 01:28, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

* "Keller included Martínez in the AIL, where he batted .340." Again, some context would help this out.

• • If you mean what the AIL was, the sentences prior explain. If you meant date, sources seem to indicate it was that very year, so I added such a clarification. Yousou (Complain) 01:23, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

* "He returned to Chattanooga in 1986 and had a .960 fielding percentage, which led all third baseman." First, it should be "led all third basemen" (plural). Second, this shift to defensive stats is kind of sudden, and the lack of offensive stats is confusing. Any reason why it is dropped here (a quick look through the article doesn't show his defensive stats again).

• • Spelling fixed. By further looking, it's just quoting the source as opposed to deliberately showing bias towards defense, by looking at the offensive stats of that year, it's clear why the source focused on that instead. Yousou (Complain) 01:18, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

* The last paragraph of the "Prospect" section (about 1987 in Calgary) could be added to the preceding paragraph, to both bolster it and to eliminate a one-line paragraph.

• • Done. Yousou (Complain) 00:50, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

* "Martínez made his major league debut on September 12, 1987..." Again, noting his position here (if not done earlier) would be good, especially as the next sentence implies Martinez played third base, but doesn't make it clear.

• • Done. Yousou (Complain) 00:54, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

* "Mariano Rivera, when asked whether there was anyone he was afraid to face..." Should note who Rivera is: "Pitcher Mariano Rivera..."

• • Done. Yousou (Complain) 00:52, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

*"The Mariners did not issue Martínez' uniform number, 11, to anyone since he retired." Reword to something like: "Since his retirment, the Mariners did not issue Martinez' uniform number 11 to any other player.

• • Done. Yousou (Complain) 00:59, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Overall not bad, just some wording to be cleared up. Once addressed I'll take another look, but shouldn't be too much. Kaiser matias (talk) 15:48, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

I might not be the original nominator, but his lack of timely response meant I felt I could step in and do what you wanted. Hopefully we can move forward and the original nominator step back in at some point if we need more work done. Yousou (Complain) 01:28, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

@Yousou: Thanks for handling this, it looks good now. Kaiser matias (talk) 14:48, 1 June 2019 (UTC)