Talk:Eddie Murphy/Archive 1

Archive 1

Present/Past tense

Anyone up to fixing the tenses in the article? It starts in Present tense, but by the ned is speaking of Mr Murphy in past tense, and I had to verify from the top opf the article that he hadn't passed recently? --131.207.161.152 14:42, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Under the sequels section the information is not correct. Sylvester Stallone has appeared in 5 Rocky sequels and 2 Rambo sequels, so he ties Eddie Muurphy's record.

misc

Is Eddie dating Johnny Gill? www.nndb.com says he's bisexual.

I cleaned up the Best Defense section and added a source for Murphy's statements about the movie at the end of the paragraph. -- Jamiem 03:18, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Why do you (User:Rmhermen) reinstate the fact that Eddie Murphy is black American? If so, does that mean from now on we should add to every other famous American as "black American" or "white American"? Marcus2 15:16, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

The fact that he is an African American is the sort of fact that a biography or encyclopedia mentions. And this fact is particularly important in understanding the career of this particular person. Rmhermen 16:29, Aug 2, 2004 (UTC)

Perhaps I'll add a photo. Marcus2 16:44, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

A picture won't help. There's plentia of people from India who are not African American but are just as dark-skinned. --b. Touch 21:40, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I make it a POINT to mention it when an individual is an African-American. As an African-American, I feel it's important to make that distinction. The fact of the matter is I don't know a single black perseon who refers to themselves as simply an "American" in a day-to-day context. I myself NEVER do. Given the still persistent practice of stripping black accomplishment from European/neo-European accounts of world history, or, when omission is impossible, shamelessly whitewashing the facts, the importance of noting someone is an African-American/black assumes added importance. Hell, we've STILL got so-called "educated" folks walking around who have no idea that ancient, dynastic Egyptians were blue-black with nappy hair. I'm putting it back in.

Funny how people think acting like folks are "color-blind" is the answer to everything. SEEING color is sometimes the antidote to the poison of racism. If I were writing an article on Freddie Prinze, would I omit/delete the fact that he was Latino? Hell, no! deeceevoice

You most certainly have a point there. How sweet it is to have these kind of comments directly from an African-American! This a positive comment, not a negative one. A voice from an African-American has more canon than a guy like me, a Caucasian. Marcus2 00:38, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Not necessarily. (What kind of comments were you epecting?) I know any number of white guys I'd listen to before, say, a Clarence Thomas or a Ward Connerly. Being black doesn't immunize one from being a grade A ignoramous/azzhole. But I get your intent. So, I guess the "African-American" stays then (at least for now). Good!  :-) deeceevoice 15:08, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

The United States is 80% Caucasian. If an American is non-Caucasian, their article should therefore inform the reader of their hertitage. It's not neccessary to identify a white American as a "white American" because, by default, an American is presumed to be white. And the fact that many of the noted people with articles are African American or Asian American is an important part of who they are and what they did (eg. Martin Luther King, Jr and Rosa Parks) --b. Touch 21:38, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I don't think this should be about race - but about ethnicity. For example, under someone who is of Irish or Swedish descent it should say an "Irish-American", "Swedish-American", etc. Therefore someone who is of African descent should have "African-American". Looking at this whole thing as black/white isn't nearly as accurate or useful.

Charlie Murphy

What's up with the multiple references to his brother? I mean, I like Chappelle's Show as much as the next guy, but who actually cares that he's Eddie brother? The other way around, it makes sense, but...

I believe that E. Murphy also produced "The PJ's". This was an animated TV series that was short-lived (unfortunately).

I remember the PJs. yeah eddie murphy was involved in that. was funny for a while... Teutanic 22:29, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Article

This article is long enough for WP:GA status and possible WP:FA status. Of course, it needs a lot of citations and the like for that, but kudos to whoever expanded it. Mad Jack 23:54, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

What is "the AIDS Foundation?" Is there a particular AIDS foundation to which Murphy donates money? TJLink 10:18, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Notable Role

Considering the box office takings of Dreamgirls and cross comparing the popularity of Beverly Hills cop and Coming to America with Dreamgirls contradicts mentioning his role in the movie as Notable. I think Eddie Murphy's role in Dreamgirls should be taken of the "Notable roles" area on the right hand side. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.178.211.107 (talk) 21:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

Cut Info/Major edit needed

I removed this unsourced tidbit from the opening:

In a 2005 poll to find The Comedian's Comedian, he was voted amongst the top 50 comedy acts ever by fellow comedians and comedy insiders.

Nowhere in the article or references could I find a source listed for this and without even a group ID for the poll, it is the worst sort of unsourced item.

I think it's being kind to call this article as presently written "B-Class." While it's not written in a overtly fannish manner, it is still so rife with unsourced statments that it reads like a pedantic teen's English paper. Considering the subject's status in the Entertainment world, it's pretty surprising it is so poor in references.RoyBatty42 16:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Upcoming Projects

My purpose in coming here was to find the name of a project that was just announced in Spring '07 as an upcoming Murphy vehicle. It's a remake of a TV series if I remember correctly. If I have the time, I'll hit IMDB and see if it's listed there. RoyBatty42 16:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Murphy

Does anyone know where Eddie's apparently Irish name comes from? Is it an anglicisation of an African name? Apologies for my ignorance, but I am curious. RMoloney 15:57, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Many African-Americans have non-African surnames. Usually slaves were given their master's last name, and while some changed them, others kept them.--69.251.191.194 00:10, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Besides, as Bernie Mac said in Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle, what's the matter, ain't you never heard of the Black Irish? :) -- Jalabi99 02:48, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I would like to know this too. The Irish due to English pressure on the country, it would have been extremly unlikely that they would have had slaves. Up until the 1800s the Irish were effectively slaves in Ireland not even having the right to vote or even own horses amongst other things - no joke. Where does Shaquel O Neil come from too. Me thinks there must be a connection between the Irish. Its particularly prevalent in New York Africans-American-Irish.

I attach this link as evidence http://www.newworldcelts.org/irish_slaves.htm

The whole Irish slave thing is not taught in any of the schools. There is a big attempt to white wash this entire issue. As an Irish person myself, this whole idea makes me sad and uncomfortable. ___________________________

Murphy is an Irish-Catholic surname-- a non-Southern usually non-slaveowning surname, usually not associated with the Scotts-Irish in the American South:

There were many Irish-Catholic slaves in the Carribean who married heavily with African slaves. So if Murphy has any Carribean heritage he could have Irish ancestry.

Also Murphy is a an Irish-Catholic name and there were very few Irish-Catholic's slaveowners (most were Northern immigranst who were in poverty during slaveowning times and did not own slaves).

Irish American slaveowners were usually Scotts-Irish instead-- and Murphy is not usually a name associated with the Scotts Irish--

Chances are he's got some direct Irish-Catholic heritage somewhere in his past-- an Irish-Catholic Ancestor who married an African American descendent of slaves.

By the way-- the Irish-catholics were pretty much slaves in Ireland (and the Scotts Itrish were the slave-owbers). So it's likely that this was a marriage of a former Irish slave (or decendent of Irish slaves) who married a former African American slave or descendednt of American slaves.

Despite the barriers of racial prejudice-- such a marriage would be two people who had discrimination against their people in their own heritage. However, Irish former slaves faced less discrimination in the United States because they were White and race prejudice continued as a problem in the U.S. long after slaverly ended, whereas Irish-Americans were not subjected to race-prejudice for as long.

Sean7phil 19:38, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

"The cast's 'cia'"?

In the section on Saturday Night Live, the article currently says:

 "Doumanian initially refused, citing that another actor, Robert Townsend, had already been selected as the cast's 'cia'."

What would a "cia" be in this context? Nonky 11:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering this myself. I don't think it should be in the article if it is not easily understandable or we don't have a definition. Itsmeiam 06:36, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Legal Woes

Why does the article state: According to Murphy's MoM's Brother's Sister in law childhood friend Harris Haith in his book, Growing Up Laughing With Eddie,... That can't be correct. I'm going to change it to According to Murphy's childhood friend. Itsmeiam 06:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Heavy Vandalism

Help! This page is subject to heavy vandalism by 76.164.1.122, 69.59.255.21, 204.81.84.99, 64.198.112.50, 70.162.123.74, 76.29.80.205. If 76.164.1.122 is NOT a vandal (you show some signs of being helpful), please LOG IN BEFORE MAKING ANY MORE CHANGES! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmeden2000 (talk • contribs) 15:09, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Filmography

Where is the list of his films in this title? I cann't found —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.47.133.203 (talk) 21:41, 24 January 2008 (UTC) nice job

Sexual orientation

On NNDB I read that Eddie Murphy is bisexual,is this true?

No, it's not true, the source there shouldn't be trusted. IronCrow 07:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

NNDB is a pretty bad source with a lot of contentious statements and a lot of biased badly-written profiles. Not that Wikipedia is immune from those either...--MartinUK (talk) 20:35, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Plagiarism??

I think this page might have lifted a good deal of content (word-for-word, with minor additions) regarding Murphy's film career from Eddie Murphy.co.uk, but I wanted to toss this out there before tagging it. Any thoughts? DRJ (talk) 10:42, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Birthplace

Almost every other bio of Eddie puts his birthplace as Brooklyn, NY, not Midwest City, OK, as is currently stated on this page. I would tend to believe that, since if his father was really a transit cop, it would be pretty hard to be employed by Oklahoma City's nonexistant subway system. Jcrav2k6 (talk) 15:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Buckwheat - NOT Alfalfa

The Little Rascals character Murphy portrayed on SNL was not Alfalfa, but Buckwheat

I've adjusted this.CraigMatthews (talk) 20:03, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Top box office star?

Is this really true? Looking at the source his movies have made $3.5bn. As the Harry Potter series has made more than this, doesn't that make Daniel Radcliffe the top box office star???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.121.145 (talk) 21:12, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

HE is the second highest, but it looks like Tom Hanks has beaten him out now. 69.251.92.84 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:16, 24 June 2010 (UTC).

Not Neutral

After reading Preview, I did not even want to read the rest of the article about Eddie Murphy. Obviously whoever wrote this did not write it from a neutral standpoint using statements like "to claim the throne as history's #1 all-time box office movie star". That is a matter of opinion and sounds like bragging (not neutral). Only the actual facts should be stated. The rest of the article is also written in much of the same language and this article is not a good read for a factual account of the star "Eddie Murphy" who I personally have nothing against. I enjoy his movies which is why I went to read the article but I dont like to read someone elses opinion praising someone, I just like to read facts!

Other examples of statements include: "and was one of the most popular cast members in the history of Saturday Night Live", also opinion. "Murphy performed an uncanny impression of Stevie Wonder", uncanny? More opinion. "Former SNL writer Margaret Humphert has said Murphy and Bill Murray are the two most talented people in the history of the show". WHERES the citation on this? "and when adjusted for inflation, remained in the top 40 highest-grossing movies of all time as of 2005" who but a super fan would bring out such a fact? "but Murphy was for the most part left unscathed since the entire weight of the movie wasn't on his shoulders" yet MORE opinion, give me a break!

This article should be completley rewritten from a neutral writers point of view. Take out the praising and unecessary adjectives which make the writer sound biased. As an example, read an article like Bill Murray. All that is stated are facts, nothing more, nothing less (although this aerticle is lacking citations). Nobody is bragging on Bill Murray as most articles in Wikipedia are written from a neutral viewpoint except when a super fan or group of super fans writes an article on someone. They have no place on Wikipedia. --Unsigned comment by 76.214.100.2 (talk · contribs) 21:48, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I attempted to do a fairly thorough rewrite to remove the NPOV/style problems with the article. Eliz81 21:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Tag removed. Most of user:76.214.100.2's concerns seem to have been reasonably addressed. --Camptown 11:13, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Hooray! Thanks for looking into that for me. This was the most substantial rewrite I had attempted thus far, I'm glad it was useful. Eliz81 21:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

 I agree that it is definitely not a neutral article, why isn't it tagged?

Eddie murphy has also been nominated many times for razzie awards but these nominations are barely discussed or mentioned at all. I know the razzies are dumb awards to begin with and they are kind of a degrading award to recieve or nominated for but this article should feature nominations such as this. It is good to show the ups and downs of an actors career, especially to make it neutral. If one person thought this article isn't neutral than that isn't an issue but if MANY people think an article isn't neutral, then it clearly isn't. I have no opinion in this matter, but it seems other people do. so maybe it is time to listen to these people who have an opinion in the matter. -MGW —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.187.157.59 (talk) 00:30, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Career - Stand-up comedy: No dates

There are no dates at all on this section. Can someone try to add some? Thanks Kvsh5 (talk) 14:59, 22 August 2009 (UTC) He was influenced by bill cosby.. but how? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.8.171.194 (talk) 18:33, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Why arent his kids in 'personal' section?

Why are his kids with ex girlfriends and ex wife Nicole not mentioned? BUt his daughter with Mel B is. I'm readding his kids. 69.140.66.37 (talk) 15:39, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Missed Abuse

Somehow someone has either popped this little bit of trolling in after the lock or did it before and it wasn't notices.

From 1989 until the mid 1990s, box office results for Murphy's films dropped, hitting a low point with the critically panned Beverly Hills Cop III (1994),[18] a movie Murphy was very lame would ultimately denounce during an appearance on Inside the Actors Studio.

Could someone kindly remove it? VanillaBear23 (talk) 14:35, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

 Done, thanks for pointing it out--Jac16888 ^Talk 09:33, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Comeback and image makeover

Murphy co-hosted the 1983 Emmy Awards with Joan Rivers. Ten years later, Murphy hosted the 1993 MTV Video Music Awards. In 2012, Murphy will host the 84th Academy Awards.[24]

Edublkmale (talk) 03:15, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Where should be changed what? "This template may only be used when followed by a specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y"." mabdul 11:28, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Eddie Murphy is the most talented person i have not met yet but o well on that one

Death

Has anybody heard that Eddie Murphy died on set of his new film??? Is it true?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.84.101.159 (talk) 01:08, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

I`m do not want to believe it. Russia wishes him many years of good health.

Seems to be a hoax: "We made some calls, and Eddie is very much alive." (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/03/eddie-murphy-dead-dies-false-rumors/) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.126.252.58 (talk) 19:34, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

If it's a hoax, it's still going - I heard he was dead today. No proof, of course. What I found says he died from injuries he received during a snowboarding accident. --Talvieno (talk) 20:13, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Andrewlp1991 ought to be banned. he used his privilege to edit semi-protected articles for vandalism. --46.115.39.193 (talk) 09:51, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Eddie Murphy to play former D.C. Mayor Marion Barry in a Spike Lee film

Eddie Murphy and Spike Lee will be working together with HBO to create a biopic of the infamous Marion Barry. Eddie has signed on to star as Barry, the civil rights activist turned D.C. mayor; with Spike Lee directing the film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.98.113.63 (talk) 02:12, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Skiing accident

Delete last sentence in "Early Life" that states: "Eddie Murphy was killed in a skiing accident in Zermatt, Switzerland while skiing.[1]"

This is not true.

Battercake (talk) 04:03, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Done, thank you very much. --Bongwarrior (talk) 05:24, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 October 2012

The last sentence in the "Stand-up Comedy" section states: The stand-up shows Delirious and Raw have been recorded and released.[when?]. This should be changed to...

Eddie also released two stand-up specials. Eddie Murphy Delirious was filmed in 1983 in Climax, Michigan. Due to the popularity of this, he then released Eddie Murphy Raw in 1987 and was filmed in the Felt Forum section of Madison Square Garden in New York. Raw has a box office total of $50.5 million.

Sources: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085474/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092948/

Reason: More in depth information about two of the most respected stand up specials.

Tcowman (talk) 21:32, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done – ^Alex J _Fox^(Talk)_(Contribs) 20:27, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Update TV appearances 23 Nov 2012

A) First, I understand the need to protect against vandalism, but Wikipedia is becoming rather pathetic for its rapidly-increasing number of write-protected articles, especially non-controversial ones like this. I'd add it myself, but sorry, I'm just a wee longtime member with a PhD. Apparently that only qualifies me to edit the most mundane of articles.

B) Under Filmography->Television, add

2012 | Eddie Murphy: One Night Only | Guest of honor | TV Special

Don't expect any more cash donations from me for a long while. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anarchy45 (talk • contribs) 04:17, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Done - Begoon ^talk 04:46, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 24 December 2012

Eddie Murhpy's page states that he died in the 19th century! Please correct! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.33.22 (talk) 10:26, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit Request July 3rd 2013

In the Lawsuit section it states that the Buchwald lawsuit was unsuccessful, that's not correct, Buchwald and his partner won and subsequently accepted a settlement from Paramount as reflected in the Buchwald article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Buchwald

Rufus the dog from hell (talk) 17:14, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

That's an interesting point you bring up. The Coming to America article has more information regarding this. I've removed the "unsuccessful" language, because while successful from a legal standpoint (made clear in the Buchwald article), it was unsuccessful from a financial standpoint (made clear in the Coming to America articl). I'll let better writers/researchers figure this one out. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 17:48, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Citation for broken link

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=bowfinger.htm says the film grossed 98 millionSageorsun (talk) 23:24, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Missing Film

IFabibo du eumelkopf can remember going to see a movie in the early eighties called "RAW". It was Eddie Murphy doing stand up. It played in movie theatres. And I think it was a huge hit. All the kids I knew saw it. It should be mentioned somewhere on the page. --Robertsmom0 (talk) 15:38, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Raw was a stand-up show that had limited theater release - which while unusual, is not unheard of nor does it make it a "film." Kevin Hart did the same thing with one of his shows earlier this year, last year Kevin Smith did a live broadcast of a QA to theaters across the US, and various stage performances (especially Cirque) get recorded to broadcast in theaters every year - I would be hesitant to call any of those items a movie/film. It is where it belongs, in the stand-up section. CleverTitania (talk) 02:57, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Coming to America isn't included in his list of 1980 films, which is awfully strange. Neither is The Distinguished Gentleman.

filmography

Is it really necessary to have his filmography split into an article of its own? Other actors with larger filmographies manage to have them included on their respective pages without breaking Wikipedia. I suggest moving the filmography back to this page.TacfuJecan (talk) 01:41, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Claimed as dead on Twitter

In early decembre 2013 Murphy was claimed on Twitter to have died after a snowboard accident. Could this be mentioned in the article? Source: [1] and [2] (german) Sorry for my English, I'm german :) -- Vezoy (talk) 00:01, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

no, because he's not dead. 71.188.17.123 (talk) 22:02, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Eddie Murphy article

"Many black actors who would later gain wider recognition make early appearances in Murphy films . . . ." SHOULD BE "Many black actors who would later gain wider recognition made early appearances in Murphy films . . . ." "made" instead of "make"

69.244.199.186 (talk) 23:21, 1 January 2014 (UTC)Bret Hooper

Number of children

On the side it says: "Children 6" I count 8 in the text (Section "Personal life" > "Family"):

1. Bria L. Murphy
2. Myles Mitchell
3. Shayne Audra
4. Zola Ivy
5. Bella Zahra
6. Christian Murphy
7. Eric Murphy
8. Angel Iris Murphy Brown

Miscount or am I missing something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.197.76.38 (talk) 19:24, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

"Second-highest grossing actor in the United States"

This is one of the first things in the introduction and a quick check of the reference shows this is no longer true, he's currently the fourth highest-grossing in the world (and US) behind Tom Hanks, Harrison Ford, and Morgan Freeman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.82.173.136 (talk) 13:34, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

highest grossing actor part should be unprotected....

since that is going to change fairly often (he is now the 5th...not the 4th) if nothing else, that part should be unprotected so this bio can be kept up to date without having to go through this process to get it changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.255.149.63 (talk) 03:18, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Eddie Murphy Personal Life

According to the London Daily Mail April 13, 2015, Eddie Murphy has 8 children. The 6 children mentioned in this article plus a son, Eric, with Paulette McNeel and a son, Christian, with Tamara Hood.

Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3037034/Eddie-Murphy-girlfriend-Paige-Butcher-share-sweet-kiss-sidelines-enjoy-Lakers-game-LA.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.39.12.245 (talk) 15:37, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 June 2015

please add categories:

• Category:20th-century American singers
• Category:20th-century American writers
• Category:21st-century American singers
• Category:21st-century American writers
• Category:American male comedians
• Category:American male singer-songwriters
• Category:Comedians from New York
• Category:Songwriters from New York
• Category:Writers from Brooklyn

Also, please refine Category:African-American singers to Category:African-American male singers 173.52.75.38 (talk) 22:40, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Done (talk to) TheOtherGaelan('s contributions) 19:14, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

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Eddie Murphy was considered for Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

Thanks to some sketches, it is thought that Rockstar Games originally considered Murphy to define Lance Vance's appearance, and possibly even voicing him in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City. The characters was voiced by Philip Michael Thomas, most famous for Miami Vice. 86.3.88.116 (talk) 18:17, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 04:25, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

I would just like it to be added anywhere in "1998 to present". Don't want any changes to be made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.3.88.116 (talk) 07:18, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Not done: Do you have any verifiable references from reliable sources to back up that claim? A "fan-channel" does not qualify. See also Agreement (linguistics)#Number.   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 16:57, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2016

Please change image caption from Eddie Murphy in Hollywood Walk of Fame to Eddie Murphy's star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame for obvious grammatical reasons. 120.57.29.160 (talk) 22:43, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Done, thank you. --Bongwarrior (talk) 22:48, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Music

In November 6, 2011, Murphy also sings a song parody "Takes Things Away" a parody of Avril Lavigne's rock hit "Take Me Away" for the 2011 film Shrek: Me and My Swamp starring Shrek, Donkey, and Princess Fiona. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.5.68.2 (talk) 13:16, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi Mix minion 57 (talk) 17:10, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

RfC: Possible reversion abuse on various edits without discussion, notification, or research per WP:BRDC

In late APR'16 ScrapIronIV started a campaign of 6 reversions. The foci were:

1. [3] 21FEB'16 User:Lanc Vanc's correction of the date and the unexpected nature of the aforementioned death of a trans woman
2. [4] 25APR'16 User:theCurraN's correction of the term 'transvestite' and addition of a supporting internal link
3. [5] 25APR'16 User:ScrapIronIV's accidental reversion of the ScrapIronIV's own erasure of the 2 edits above
4. [6] 03MAY'16 User:theCurraN's 1st reversion of ScrapIronIV's erasures; with unanswered notification
5. [7] 10MAY'16 User:theCurraN's 2nd reversion of ScrapIronIV's new erasures to allow the source addition; with notification
6. [8] 10MAY'16 User:theCurraN's source addition per ScrapIronIV's orders
7. [9] 10MAY'16 User:theCurraN's anchoring of the added source
8. [10] 11MAY'16 User:Hebron Alden's addition of officially announced heir per 26SEP'15 decision

1. [11] 29MAY'16 User:theCurraN's addition of CNN and Rupert Murdoch-controlled sources to previous Daily Mail source

This is the only version ScrapIronIV has accepted:

1. [12] 20APR'15 User:Jfc4me's section creation with Daily Mail source

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• The Transphobia#Manifestations of murder and misgendering
• The Samoan third gender, fa'afafine
• The Miss Island Queen Pageant
• The pageant winner entry for 1993 - Shalimar (Atisone Seiuli) on the official site http://assofias.webs.com/formertitleholders.htm

These tidbits should help explain that:

• It is misgendering to charge a trans woman who has undergone feminization surgery and hormone therapy with transvestism for wearing feminine clothes.
• It is misgendering to charge a legally recognized non-male fa'afafine with transvestism for wearing feminine clothes.

It seems unencyclopædic to wholly erase sourced content that is published in book form, verifiable online, and legally cleared of slander without an opposing source; please try the WP:CYCLE instead. Warmest Regards, :)—_thecurran Speak your mind ^{my past} 08:45, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

What the sources say is what Wikipedia says. The source used states:

"Back in 1997, Eddie became a late-night talk show punch-line after undercover cops pulled him over for picking up a transvestite prostitute."

This is what the article states. If anyone wished to take up issues of "misgendering" then they need to take that to the source, not accuse me (or anyone else) of "transphobia" or "misgendering" - nor is anyone "charging" anyone with anything. It is NOT "reversion abuse" to remove claims that are not supported in the cited sources.

As I said on my talk page, find a source which uses the terms requested here, and cite it. Scr★pIron^IV 12:17, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

The "Miss Island Queens 1993 - Shalimar (Atisone Seiuli)" section on http://assofias.webs.com/formertitleholders.htm the official website positively identifies her as fa'afafine. Warmest Regards, :)—_thecurran Speak your mind ^{my past} 01:11, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

The webs.com site is a commercial "create your own" service, and is not a WP:RS Scr★pIron^IV 12:28, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

• For printed news format; the most popular newspaper in New Zealand is The New Zealand Herald, whose owner is New Zealand Media and Entertainment, whose owner is APN News & Media, whose two largest shareholders are Allan Gray Australia and Rupert Murdoch's News Limited; see http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11399594
• For printed book format, see
• For online format on a dozen alphabetized sites; not including "The NZ Herald" or "PI for Stars"; see:

http://assofias.webs.com/atributepage.htm http://boingboing.net/2013/09/16/hip-hop-trans-people-and-a-g.html http://lgbt.wikia.com/wiki/Atisone_Seiuli http://muse.jhu.edu/article/597155/pdf http://pantograph-punch.com/post/review-girl-on-a-corner http://s3.amazonaws.com/ww-article-cache-1/en/Miss_Island_Queen_Pageant http://worldebookfair.org/articles/Miss_Island_Queen_Pageant http://www.bustle.com/articles/132068-7-celebrity-scandals-you-forgot-about-from-the-90s-from-hugh-grants-arrest-to-julia-roberts http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1551831/bio http://www.lifetimetv.co.uk/biography/biography-eddie-murphy http://www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=Miss%20Island%20Queen%20Pageant http://www.shaba.co/wa?s=miss_island_queen_pageant Warmest Regards, :)—_thecurran Speak your mind ^{my past} 05:53, 17 May 2016 (UTC) I updated the edit history. Warmest Regards, :)—_thecurran Speak your mind ^{my past} 21:42, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

References

Arrest?

Not a single mention of his arrest for picking up a transvestite prostitute.

I wonder if someone associated with Murphy deleted this section from the article.

Woah!! That is what I came into discussion to see. There is absolutely no mention of his arrest or this scandalous event. That needs to be put in.

• I'm not one who really cares for celebrity gossip or crimes, but considering virtually every other celebrity has those sorts of details in their article or at least linked, it's only fair to include it!

• • I just added it in. It was strange to me that it wasn't included either.

Mister Jinxy 17:51, 18 February 2007 (UTC) Yeah someone is going to great links to hide what appears to be a tranny fetish.

It was recently removed for being "unsourced." Although shameful and controversial, the fact is that Murphy was detained for picking up a prostitute and that it had a great impact on his career for years afterward. The news media have long since acknowledged that it happened; why can't we? White 720 22:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

In case someone wants to add it back in, here's a source: [13] and another: [14] (from the writeup of the prostitute implicated in that incident) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by White 720 (talk • contribs) 22:13, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

Lets keep in mind this is a encyclopedia, not a newspaper or magazine. His arrest is nothing significant, nor needed for an encyclopedic article. Please remove. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.178.211.107 (talk) 21:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

to be in this article? --BrettxPW (talk) 00:23, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

What arrest!?? It's the first thing I think about when I hear "Eddie Murphy." It had been a long time since his heyday, and a long time until he did anything else noteworthy. The page history is a tapestry of bizarre, random slights to his character - urban legends I've never heard. This page stinks of spin and calculated misdirection. Changing it seems WikiSisyphusian. Ed's just too clever. And Straight! - ppK [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|

I came for info on the arrest and leave disappointed. Someone should include it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.255.249.130 (talk) 21:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I am pretty sure the TV prostitute is dead now...mysterious circumstances?...cant remember. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.232.157.78 (talk) 14:50, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

im pretty sure i heard something about this. What kind of idiot would take it off! Why not tell vital info just to be nice! IT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO!!! its unfair to the public! IT SHOULD BE ADDED BACK!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.129.210.120 (talk) 19:56, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

It's still not included J.Rly (talk) 03:13, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Transvestite Prostitute Shalomar aka Ken Atison Seiuli died in 1998, fell out of a window. 

From http://www.findadeath.com/Deceased/s/atisonseiuli/seiuli.htm

At 4:45am Friday May 2 1997 – Eddie picked up 20-year-old Atisone ‘Shalomar’ Seiuli, a Samoan born transvestite prostitute, as he left the hotspot JONES. Cops – on hooker watch - observed as she hopped in Eddie’s Land Cruiser and they drove off. Two miles later, they were pulled over, but since they were not engaged in any illegal behavior, Eddie was let go. However, Shalomar was detained for an outstanding prostitution warrant, and then bailed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.96.28.161 (talk) 17:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

IT IS STILL NOT INCLUDED. Ridiculous, must be his agency scrubbing the sordid past. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.97.110.61 (talk) 18:51, 13 September 2012 (UTC) ]

It has been added and removed many times, unfortunately having admin trumps rules on wikipedia, and somebody close to Murphy has obtained admin. ||||Tonight, you sleep with the fishes|Talk|| 23:05, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Gamaliel (talk) 03:03, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

• I have removed the passage and will presently be posting to WP:BLPN to get some more eyes on this. The content in question has two refs. The first ref (NYT) does not support the wording in its entirety (only the part about the being stopped by the police, not any effects resulting from the incident) and the second one (LA Times) doesn't appear to support it at all. Furthermore, the first source only makes a brief mention of the incident in passing, hardly focusing on Murphy at all. So let's review: While it's verifiable that he was stopped by the police, there's been no evidence shown of an arrest (so why this section title?) and no evidence shown that it created any personal or professional problems for the man. Somehow, being stopped by the police doesn't seem like a noteworthy occurrence for an encyclopedia article. Gee whiz, throw a prostitute into the mix, and make it a transvestite one, and what there is is lots of lurid tabloid fodder. But Wikipedia isn't a tabloid; it's an encyclopedia. The content, as written, is rather blatantly undue and, in being so, bumps up against the edges of a BLP violation, imo. Rivertorch (talk) 17:16, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I came here to find the tranny incident because I wanted to know during which marriage it occurred, and also I wanted to know the exact quote where his wife said, "EDDIE, YOU'RE DEAD MEAT!!!!!" or something to that effect. "Rivertorch" says this is tabloid stuff, but Eddie turned himself into tabloid subject matter. Not putting it in would be like going to Paris Hilton's Wikipedia entry and not being able to read anything other than date of birth, etc. Ditto Kim Kardashian (and loads of others). They ARE taboid subject matter - and they are the ones who made themselves that. It is part and parcel of who they are. Deleting this from Eddie Murphy's entry is typical of what is making Wikipedia less and less useful these days. Eddie Murphy has to be presented as if he is the President of the United States. He's not. He has made himself the butt of jokes by his personal conduct while out in public. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.20.99 (talk) 18:47, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Her death is being omitted again. Please join the Request for Comment below Talk:Eddie Murphy#RfC:_Possible_reversion_abuse_on_various_edits_without_discussion.2C_notification.2C_or_research_per_WP:BRDC Warmest Regards, :)—_thecurran Speak your mind ^{my past} 21:50, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Damaged eye?

I looked up Eddie here on Wikipedia specifically to see if there is any information about his right eye having been injured or damaged at some point in his life. It seems to always be half closed, even back in the SNL days. Anyone else notice that? I remember him discussing a fight somehow involving Danny Terrio in one of his stand up routines. But I've never heard anyone mention his droopy right eye.

I was also curious about his arrest with the transvestite. What happened with that? Did he ever explain? If so, what did he say?

I believe he said that he thought he was with a female prostitute.

I was hoping Wikipedia would be more comprehensive and less worried about political correctness. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.164.58.160 (talk) 18:44, 3 February 2007 (UTC).

Wikipedia is comprehensive, some must have removed it o.o

scary stuff.

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Addition of Eddie Murphy bisexuality

I listed Eddie Murphy under the BISEXUAL ACTORS category. I believe he is bisexual in that he picked up a transvestite male prostitute and yet he also sleeps with women. Which I think make him bisexual instead of just plain gay. Correct me if I am wrong... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.28.111.176 (talk) 01:38, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I think you need more proof than that one time, like him actually admitting being bisexual. Jcrav2k6 (talk) 15:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

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Why no mention of the Transexual prostitute encounter?

Why no mention of the mid 1997 encounter that made headlines? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.43.79.150 (talk) 03:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

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Incorrect redirect

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atisone_Seiuli#Personal_life is a redirect to Eddie Murphy Personal Life, and links from Contents 3, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3 have that address .... why? Red58bill (talk) 02:56, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

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Birthplace

On a episode of Unsung Hollywood on the TV One Channel that aired 8/3/16 Eddie's brother Charlie confirmed that they grew up in Brownsville, Brooklyn in the Tilden Houses before moving to Long Island, not Bushwick — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bxdale83 (talk • contribs) 09:00, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

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Sequels

Murphy is credited with appearing in more sequels than any other actor. However, there are only seven movies listed. Desmond Llewelyn, Q in the James Bond series, appeared in some sixteen sequels.

I think to be a sequel it has to be more than another in a series of films like the bond ones.At least i think the title should be similar. There have been many longer series of films than Bond by the way.

Not Well-stated

"His peformance in Dreamgirls was the recipient of a 2007 Golden Globe in the Best Actor In A Supporting Role category." His performance wasn't a recipient. You should state "He was the recipient of a Golden Globe for his supporting role..." or something to that effect. иǎŃ

Photo

I believe the photo currently up, from Dreamgirls, is actually of Jamie Foxx and not Eddie Murphy...

??

As I read this article it seems to be very biased against Murphy, an African American male

Riddler

Ok, this is ridiculous. The Sun is a tabloid, not a reputable source for inclusion on Wikipedia. There are a hundred stories from actual reputable sources going around that totally debunk this "Riddler" story. Here is just one [15]. A 3rd movie hasn't even been announced by Warner Brothers, Nolan hasn't agreed to direct one, Bale hasn't agreed to be in one. Anyone really think they're casting the Riddler before seeing if the two most important people want to do another movie? Get real. This is a rumor put out by a tabloid and has no place on wikipedia. 98.220.54.37 ([[User talk:98.220.murphy I added

8.22.2016: edit request section 4.1 Family needs info

The kids he had/has with ex wife Nicole Murphy are gone. Why? They were here before. They need to be here again as the kids are now of age and in the entertainment industry. For example Bria is a model and trying to be an actress; Myles works for/at Industrial Light and Magic; Shayne is attempting to be a model. Yet the years for his 1st 2 sons [eric, christian] and last 2 daughters[angel,izzy] are here. Please restore.

change from this
Murphy began a longtime romantic relationship with Nicole Mitchell after meeting her in 1988 at an NAACP Image Awards show. They lived together for almost two years before getting married at the Grand Ballroom of The Plaza Hotel in New York City on March 18, 1993.[47] Murphy and Mitchell had five children together: Bria, Myles, Shayne, Zola, and Bella.[45][46] In August 2005, Mitchell filed for divorce, citing "irreconcilable differences". The divorce was finalized on April 17, 2006.[48]

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Murphy began a longtime romantic relationship with Nicole Mitchell after meeting her in 1988 at an NAACP Image Awards show. They lived together for almost two years --and had daughter Bria[1989] and son Myles[November 1992] -- before getting married at the Grand Ballroom of The Plaza Hotel in New York City on March 18, 1993.[47] Murphy and Mitchell had three more daughters for a total of five children together: daughters Shayne[1994], Zola[1999], and Bella[2002].[45][46] In August 2005, Mitchell filed for divorce, citing "irreconcilable differences". The divorce was finalized on April 17, 2006.[48]

Thank You. 12.147.169.138 (talk) 12:11, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 February 2017

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Citation #59 is incorrect

The statement-

Legal issues On May 2, 1997, Murphy was stopped by police after having been observed picking up a transvestite prostitute. The prostitute, Atisone Seiuli, was arrested on an outstanding warrant for prostitution. Murphy was not arrested or charged and claimed he was just giving Seiuli a ride.[59]

The stated citation #59 is irrelevant and doesn't show connection. The referenced source does not support the claim. The entire "legal issue" segment should be removed or a correct referenced source should be provided SirWixit (talk) 04:54, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

 Done I have found two reliable sources to replace the single unreliable one. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 14:08, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 September 2017

Thank You Nickyjampr78732156 (talk) 02:32, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 3 November 2017

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Citation 3 link no longer exists =

Discovered on 26 November 2017, citation 3 link goes to a message that says the server crashed at some unspecified time and the information is no longer available: "Comedy Central 100 Greatest Standups of all Time". Listology. May 19, 2005. Retrieved August 29, 2010. Thedoctor98 (talk) 00:26, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

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World War II 1945

He was in World War II 1945. An HBO miniseries from 2005. Played Johnny Burnside, a fictional comedian who always made jokes about World War II. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:B420:8040:3C54:BE5B:B2A1:9E7E (talk) 20:29, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2018

Please change: During this period, Murphy was criticized by filmmaker Spike Lee for not using his show business stature to help black actors break into film,^[33] despite Murphy's films (especially those he produced) often being populated with predominantly black casts (Coming to America, Harlem Nights, Boomerang, Vampire in Brooklyn, Life).

To: During this period, Murphy was criticized by filmmaker Spike Lee for not using his show business stature to help black actors break into film,^[33] but as Murphy's prominence grew, his films (especially those he produced) would often feature predominantly black casts (Coming to America, Harlem Nights, Boomerang, Vampire in Brooklyn, Life).

Because the reference (33) is a Jet magazine interview with Spike Lee dated March 6th, 1989. With the exception of "Coming to America", all the movies listed were released after that date. In fact, Murphy only had 6 films released at that time, most of which didn't have notable black casting. But indeed "Coming to America" had a largely black cast, and was the first film Murphy had sole story credit on. His film before that, "Beverly Hills Cop II", was the first film he had partial story credit on, and did feature more black characters than "Beverly Hills Cop". So a more unbiased middleground that doesn't imply Spike Lee's criticism was unfounded is fair to both of them. 216.15.40.51 (talk) 14:59, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

 Done I agree that the suggested edit corrects the sequence of the films listed versus Lee's criticism and complies with the sources already present. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:46, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 December 2018

For clarity I would suggest changing it from "His father died in 1969 when he was eight." to "His father died in 1969 when Murphy was eight." the original wording could make it sound like the father was eight when he died. Thecrazycanuck (talk) 04:54, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

 Done DannyS712 (talk) 05:36, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 December 2019

Eddie Murphy was sued for sexual harassment and breach of contract in 1989. This was covered in the press at the time, including in the Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-05-12-ca-3160-story.html), People Magazine (https://people.com/archive/pink-slipped-by-eddie-murphy-michael-michele-vows-their-only-date-will-be-in-court-vol-31-no-21/), and Rolling Stone (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/eddie-murphy-call-him-money-82359/). I believe this information is noteworthy and should be included. HeavyPayload (talk) 04:52, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

The outcome of the allegation is important. If it did not go beyond an accusation, i.e. no judgment establishing it factually, it only serves to blacken the name of the subject and ought not to be published. sirlanz 05:09, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Melmann 22:30, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Restore point on Shalimar Seiuli

This was removed in October of 2019 with the Baxolile as "WP is not a gossip rag". Shalimar Seiuli became a known name because of Eddie Murphy - if she has an article on WP that leads with her being an infamous public figure after being seen with Eddie Murphy, Eddie Murphy's article should have reference to this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.34.83.207 (talk) 02:32, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected removal request on February 6, 2020

Remove that semi-protected template for me, please one of the admins? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Edit_semi-protected Removed Hank9172 (talk) 00:13, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2020

Change:

In May 1968, Murphy was stopped by police with a crossdressing prostitute in his car shortly before the release of Dr. Dolittle, causing him a number of public relations problems.[74][75]

to:

In May 1968, Murphy was stopped by police with a crossdressing prostitute in his car shortly before the release of Dr. Dolittle, causing him a number of public relations problems.[74][75]

It's disrespectful to the memory of this person: https://en.wikipedia.org/wili/Shalimar_Seiuli 2.28.254.205 (talk) 10:19, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

 Done AntiCedros (talk) 14:24, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2020

Murphy's years active info needs to be changed back to "1980–present", because he did nor retire from acting in 2012 and resume acting in 2015. He's has been active ever since 1980 and nothing in the article says that he retired in 2012. 2600:1000:B05F:9EA7:9CC2:F98E:675C:A50 (talk) 23:59, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done – robertsky (talk) 02:42, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Your Thought On This

Does anyone know or think that Eddie Murphy voiced Destiny from Pucca? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.68.0.226 (talk) 11:48, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

"Eddie Murphy Television" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2022

Please Change the word transsexual to transgender. Transsexual is outdated and used perjoratively. 71.34.18.104 (talk) 06:21, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

 Done Lemonaka (talk) 08:38, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

It should be noted that the primary use of transsexual is not pejorative, it's important to avoid those apocryphal narratives, but if the community prefers transgender then that is a good change to be made. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 09:15, 31 December 2022 (UTC)