Talk:East Turkestan Revolutionary Party

East Turkestan Revolutionary Party was nominated as a History good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (April 5, 2024, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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A fact from East Turkestan Revolutionary Party appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 30 January 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the seven leaders of the East Turkestan Revolutionary Party had Uyghur-language code names, the initials of which spelled out the word Lëninchi, meaning "Leninist"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/January. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/East Turkestan Revolutionary Party.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by DirtyHarry991 talk 00:39, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the seven leaders of the East Turkestan Revolutionary Party had Uyghur-language code names, the initials of which spelled out the word Lëninchi, meaning "Leninist"? Sources: Wang, Ke (15 March 2020). The East Turkestan Independence Movement, 1930s to 1940s. Translated by Fletcher, Carissa. The Chinese University of Hong Kong Press. p. 242. ISBN 978-962-996-769-7.; Evans, Michael P. (July 2017). A Nearly Perfect Storm: The Rise and Fall of the Eastern Turkistan People's Revolutionary Party (PhD thesis). Indiana University ProQuest Dissertations Publishing. pp. 70–71.
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Created by Yue (talk). Self-nominated at 00:20, 30 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/East Turkestan Revolutionary Party; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General eligibility:
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Adequate sourcing:
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QPQ: None required.

Overall: Hook is interesting, I think that Leninist should link to Leninism. I'm not sure if a qpq is needed as I don't know how many articles Yue has submitted for dyk, if they have submitted less than five articles then a qpq is not needed and this is good to go. Sahaib (talk) 20:12, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sahaib: Including this article, I have submitted a total of two, the other being the Hong Kong National Front which was approved some time ago. Thank you for your help, and have a Happy New Year! Yue🌙 20:48, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Yue: it is good to go now, also happy new year to you too. Sahaib (talk) 20:53, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Unsuccessful. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 00:46, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:East Turkestan Revolutionary Party/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Yue (talk · contribs) 05:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Thebiguglyalien (talk · contribs) 03:20, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I'll get a review written for this article within the next few days. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 03:20, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Thebiguglyalien: Thank you, I appreciate your time in conducting this review. I will respond promptly to your suggestions. Cheers. Yue🌙 05:15, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yue, I've checked the sources, and I have some concerns about how they're being used. The most immediate problem is that in several of the sources I checked, they didn't have all of the information that the article claims they do. I've listed the ones I checked below. If possible, could you quote the specific passages that support these in case I missed them? If I'm correct about the text-source integrity issues, then I have to assume that it's the same for the sources I haven't checked, including the non-English sources. In that case, the article will still need a lot of work to meet the GA criteria and I'll close the review so the sourcing issues can be resolved. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 02:57, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Thebiguglyalien: Thank you again for taking the time to conduct this review. I will try to begin addressing and remedying these issues within the next two to three days; if I do not, please close this review as a Fail. I may also contact you sooner if I believe that my real-life responsibilities are hindering me from properly addressing these issues at this time. I apologise for what appears to be shoddy reference work by myself. All the best, Yue🌙 03:54, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Thebiguglyalien: I do not think I will have enough time in the next few days to respond adequately to your comments thus-far. I request that you Fail this review at this time. Thank you once again for taking the time to review the article. All the best, Yue🌙 00:07, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All right, I'll close the review. Besides the sourcing, the article looks pretty good overall, and I'm sure you know that Wikipedia can always benefit from more coverage of Chinese history. I hope to see more articles like this go through GAN in the future! Thebiguglyalien (talk) 00:46, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well-written

Verifiable with no original research

Azizi (1987), Newby (1986), and Xu (2016) are listed in the sources but they're not cited anywhere in the article.
Why does the article cite both Wang (2020) and Brophy's book review?
How independent are the sources published in China? If they're subject to oversight by the CCP, that would mean we're using the position of one political party to write about a closely related party.

Spot checks for plagiarism and text-source integrity:

Brophy (2023) p. 904 – I don't see anything about these different party names on this page.
Benson (1990) p. 97 – This supports that Abbas was a delegate to Nanjing, but it doesn't say that the delegates traveled in December 1946
Hasanli (2020) p. 123 – I was not able to find any mention of Soviet hesitancy to antagonize, postwar border security concerns, or any mention of the Kuomintang and anti-communism. The edition I checked is from 2021, is it possible the pages are different in this version?
Hasanli (2020) p. 125 – Y
Wang (2020) p. 240 – Checked all three uses – "Sources differ as to the official name of the" is the exact wording of the source presented as our own wording.
Wang (2020) p. 241 – Checked all seven uses – With the fourth use, it doesn't say anything about a "vanguard party for the masses of Xinjiang, particularly the youth"

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