Talk:EDSA

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the EDSA article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1: 3 months

EDSA was a Engineering and technology good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
August 20, 2012	Good article nominee	Not listed
January 12, 2013	Good article reassessment	Not listed

Current status: Former good article nominee

Tambayan Philippines High‑importance

	Philippines portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Tambayan Philippines, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics related to the Philippines on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Tambayan PhilippinesWikipedia:WikiProject Tambayan PhilippinesTemplate:WikiProject Tambayan PhilippinesPhilippine-related articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the importance scale.

Highways: Asia High‑importance

	Roads portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Highways, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of highways on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.HighwaysWikipedia:WikiProject HighwaysTemplate:WikiProject HighwaysHighways articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Asian Highways Task Force.

This article is written in Philippine English, which has its own spelling conventions (color, realize, center, travelled) and some terms that are used in it (including jeepney and cyberlibel) may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

Discussions:

RM, Epifanio de los Santos Avenue → EDSA / EDSA (road), moved to EDSA (road), 2 April 2013, discussion
RM, EDSA (road) → EDSA, no consensus, 9 May 2013, discussion
RM, EDSA → EDSA (road), moved, 13 April 2021, discussion

Tip: Anchors are case-sensitive in most browsers.

This article links to one or more target anchors that no longer exist.

[[Major roads in Metro Manila#The Manila Arterial Road System|Metro Manila Arterial Road System]] The anchor (#The Manila Arterial Road System) has been deleted.

Please help fix the broken anchors. You can remove this template after fixing the problems. | Reporting errors

Requested move (2)

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 14:54, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

EDSA (road) → EDSA – Since this was moved to EDSA (road) from the EDSA meaning. I decided to move this again to just "EDSA" as a primary topic. Because the disambiguation page contents are something in common with the name of road itself. --Relisted. ^walk victor falk^talk 06:22, 20 May 2014 (UTC)j3j3j3 ...pfH0wHz 07:22, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. "EDSA" should be or redirect to the disambiguation page. Coreyemotela (talk) 10:27, 11 May 2014 (UTC).[reply]

Reply to Coreyemotela Even if majority of the article at the disambiguation page are related to the name of road itself, "EDSA" must be a disambiguation page?? Reply ASAP. j3j3j3 ...pfH0wHz 07:20, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My answer is simply yes. The current situation is good. Coreyemotela (talk) 19:40, 21 May 2014 (UTC).[reply]

Oppose. These initials seem to have several meanings, and some motorway/freeway in the Philippines is not necessarily dominant. Move EDSA (disambiguation) to EDSA. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:52, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply to Anthony Appleyard Even there is no article that has an acronym EDSA? j3j3j3 ...pfH0wHz 02:13, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
For other meanings of EDSA, see https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=xZx1U6H6NejR8gfF1IDQAg#q=EDSA . The edits at EDSA were partly redirects (which I have left there), and partly about a computer part (which I have moved to EDSA (computer part) and deleted, and I have noted accordingly in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EDSA). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:13, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply to Anthony Appleyard Well, let the admin decide for this. By the way, the road itself is popular in Google search in the Philippines. Whatever the result of this request, this is final already. j3j3j3 ...pfH0wHz 07:01, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Move EDSA (disambiguation) to EDSA. A typical case of a WP:MALPLACED dab page,and move "EDSA (road)" to Epifanio de los Santos Avenue per WP:NATURALDIS. ^walk victor falk^talk 06:22, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

How many cars per day?

This line seems contradictory: EDSA handles an average of 316,345 cars daily,[2] and an average of 2.34 million vehicles go through EDSA every day. Both figures seem sourced, but why the 10x discrepancy? Jpatokal (talk) 00:36, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Probably the other 2 million things with wheels aren't cars? –H T D 04:12, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I believe someone read 2.34 Million from a source like this one which originally referred to individuals or trips, and appended 'vehicles' later on for whatever reason. This is obviously erroneous as the load factor of vehicles, on average, goes well beyond 1.

The official number from 2022 is 385,096 vehicles from MMDA's Annual Average Daily Traffic however MMDA sometimes releases figures to the media like 427,000 in October 2023

If going by the AADT, only a little more than half of the volume are private cars aka 200k. Adding up peak ridership from the MRT (600,000) and EDSA Busway (454,000), along with a rough load factor of 3.0 for the 427,000 vehicle count, you end up with around 2.34M.

tl;dr 2.34M vehicles per day is wrong, 385,096 vehicles per day is correct. Imongmamamagayon (talk) 15:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 13 April 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

It was proposed in this section that multiple pages be renamed and moved.

result:
Moved per consensus garnered below. Kudos to all editors for your input, and Happy, Healthy Publishing! (nac by page mover) P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 22:39, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Links: current log • target log

This is template {{subst:Requested move/end}}

EDSA (road) → EDSA
EDSA → EDSA (disambiguation)

– Much of the subtopics under EDSA disambiguation page are related to or connected with EDSA, meaning it has gained the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Also, the page readership stats: EDSA (road) = 3,853 readers as compared to EDSA (company) = mere 221 readers. So there is no need to disambiguate if it is the real primary topic. The disambiguation page will go to EDSA (disambiguation). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 04:57, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: EDSA titles a page with significant content and so it is ineligible as a target, new title unless it is also proposed to be renamed. This request has been altered to reflect that fact. P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 06:25, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Showiecz (talk) 10:21, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. —hueman1 (talk • contributions) 10:56, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, I'm not convinced there's a PRIMARYTOPIC. Several of the pages on the list have similar if not more page views and are of equal if not greater significance.--Ortizesp (talk) 01:02, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ortizesp: Can you give an example? —hueman1 (talk • contributions) 01:09, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, pageview stats here: [[1]]. The People Power Revolution (AKA EDSA I, or EDSA Revolution) gets the most page views by far. The street gets similar page views to the other 2 revolutions and the shrine.@HueMan1:--Ortizesp (talk) 01:14, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ortizesp: I know but that's not what we're talking about here. You don't call these topics "EDSA" alone nor do you call these with a disambiguation for the road like "EDSA (road) Revolution" and "EDSA (road) Shrine". The proposal here is to determine which is the primary topic for "EDSA", the company or the road. —hueman1 (talk • contributions) 02:18, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The revolutions are sometimes called EDSA I, II, and III, and they are all listed on the DAB, I think that's close enough. I think it's more useful to keep it as is although I understand where you guys are coming from.--Ortizesp (talk) 03:55, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ortizesp: the revolutions are related and tied to the road itself. For example, EDSA 1 is the focal point of the revolution that toppled the Marcos regime. Before that revolution it was more or less known as "Epifanio De Los Santos Avenue" or to the older folks, "Highway 54". But since the revolution people and nearly all media agencies here call the thoroughfare "EDSA", and EDSA is the first word that almost all Filipinos refer to the road. This is undoubtly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the name EDSA. Unless this highway will be renamed (which is unlikely as of today). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 09:44, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Discounting WP:Partial title matches there are really only two entries–the road and the company–and it's very clear that the road is the primary topic of those two. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:14, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Shhhnotsoloud. It's abundantly clear what the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is. Howard the Duck (talk) 17:13, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.