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On 14 May 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from ECPAT International to ECPAT. The result of the discussion was moved.

Reads like an advertisment

With sentences like "ECPAT widened its scope of work to encompass all issues of child sexual exploitation" and "1) working with the private sector to adopt and implement the Code of Conduct for the Protection of Children from Sexual Exploitation in Travel and Tourism" it looks like it was stolen directly from a the press centre of the organisation. At least the ECPAT-USA section needs to be rewritten. Jeltz talk 20:33, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

== Is this? ==

Are ECPAT the guys who are backing that nonsensical law against fictional Child-pornography in Sweden? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.212.133.159 (talk) 19:23, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, if fictional child pornography became legal then the rate of actual child pornography would drop and they'd have less to rage about and thus would have less importance. Every large organization will eventually become corrupt and try to sustain its importance (which of course translates into funding) by appealing to highly confused people, in this case at the expense of innocent children, artists, and art/pornography viewers/consumers.76.224.14.76 (talk) 03:53, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article by the founder and creator of the Swedish Pirate Party and listed by Time as one of the world's most influential people. http://falkvinge.net/2012/09/07/three-reasons-child-porn-must-be-re-legalized-in-the-coming-decade/ and http://falkvinge.net/2012/09/11/child-porn-laws-arent-as-bad-as-you-think-theyre-much-much-worse/ 68.62.101.204 (talk) 00:11, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright concerns

This one is a right old mess, anyway analysis edit by edit below:

Extended content

Espenrh (talk | contribs) at 02:45, 1 June 2005. Introduced the text ECPAT is a network of organisations and individuals working together to eliminate the commercial sexual exploitation of children. The acronym stands for "End Child Prostitution, Child Pornography and Trafficking of Children for Sexual Purposes" which is a copyright violation of [1].
Next two edits, format changes etc.
Espenrh (talk | contribs) at 20:07, 2 June 2005. Introduced the text The organization was awarded the 1998 Rafto Prize. No source found and this is probably too simple to be a problem.
Next 5 edits, formatting, linkin getc.
Cfantacone (talk | contribs) at 21:23, 18 November 2006. Introduced the text ECPAT has Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations (ECOSOC). - Quite a simple statement but is identical to [2]
72.225.231.32 (talk) at 23:38, 18 November 2006 introduced lots of text. Although I haven't found a source for all of it enough of it has been copied for it all to be suspect:
- CPAT International is a global network dedicated to eliminating the commercial sexual exploitation of children or CSEC. The International Secretariat is based in Bangkok, Thailand. 73 ECPAT groups are located in 67 countries. Taken from [3] with minor re-ordering etc which probably isn't enought to avoid copyright concerns.
- The ECPAT network is composed of the ECPAT groups who are its driving force. These groups range in financial strength and employee size as well as extent of geographical scope. Within the ECPAT network, groups have different roles and focus depending on the particularities of the country/region they operate in, whether in terms of the situation of CSEC, economic power, or cultural context. Barring the second sentence taken from [4].
- ECPAT International identifies interested groups and encourages and assists them with information and skills sharing both nationally and regionally to increase the effectiveness of those working to combat CSEC. Taken from [5]
- Some areas in which ECPAT works include: prevention of and fight against child sex tourism and child trafficking, prevention of child pornography on the internet, support of direct services to children who are at risk or are victims of CSEC, assistance of law enforcement in investigating and prosecuting offenders, and the development and implementation of campaigns aimed at raising public awareness of CSEC. Can't find a source.
- In 2006, ECPAT, with the support of UNICEF and the World Tourism Organization, launched the "Code of Conduct for the Protection of Children from Sexual Exploitation in Travel and Tourism." The code encourages companies in the tourism sector to help in the fight against CSEC. Companies providing tourism services adopt the code and its 6 criteria aimed at fighting sexual exploitation of children. Can't find a source.
Next 4 edits formatting, links etc.
72.225.231.32 (talk) at 04:14, 8 January 2007 introduced Hotel chains, tour agencies, and airlines around the world have committed themselves to incorporating the protection of children and fight against child exploitation into the business procedures and environment. Some efforts include: posting signs and posters letting customers know child sexual exploitation is a crime, educating and training workers to spot and report suspicious activities of customers, requiring vendors and employees to agree not take part in the exploitation of children under penalty of termination of employment or business relationship. Reporting is done by these signing businesses to check progress and share best practices. Can't find a source but my gut feeling is it's a copyvio especially given the user's edits above.
Next 12 edits formatting, links, references etc except for the addition of Established in 1990.
Susanbryce (talk | contribs) at 19:27, 25 April 2008 introduced the EPCAT Philippines section which is a clear copyright violation of [6].
Next four addition of image, linking etc.
70.107.238.37 (talk) at 16:02, 19 August 2008 introduced lots of text on EPCAT USA:
- First four paragpraphs are from [7]
- Rest copied from [8]
Up to the present - formatting etc, no significant changes.

From that lot what we'd have left is:

The organization was awarded the 1998 Rafto Prize.
Hotel chains, tour agencies, and airlines around the world have committed themselves to incorporating the protection of children and fight against child exploitation into the business procedures and environment. Some efforts include: posting signs and posters letting customers know child sexual exploitation is a crime, educating and training workers to spot and report suspicious activities of customers, requiring vendors and employees to agree not take part in the exploitation of children under penalty of termination of employment or business relationship. Reporting is done by these signing businesses to check progress and share best practices.
Established in 1990.

The second paragraph is no use out of context and anyway refers to one aspect of this orginisations work which leaves us with a very short article. Therefore I feel deletion as a copyvio and restarting as a stub seems most sensible as we have virtually no text we can re-use. Dpmuk (talk) 13:17, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Have done. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:35, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem removed

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Background

Such a big organization and no names are attached to it, as founders etc, or any mentions that most NGO's into sex-trade work here in Thailand has several scandals with staff-members doing exactly what they say they are fighting against - or that ECPAT's background is from the extreme christian movement, trying to outlaw also adult erotica etc? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.11.80.218 (talk) 15:03, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Name changed

It is no longer called "End Child Prostitution and Trafficking." The organization now simply uses the name "ECPAT International." i changed this - but someone changed it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slardybardfast2 (talk • contribs) 03:48, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 14 May 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Moved as an uncontested request with minimal participation. If there is any objection within a reasonable time frame, please ask me to reopen the discussion; if I am not available, please ask at the technical requests page. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 05:05, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ECPAT International → ECPAT – There is no such thing as "ECPAT International", but only simply mentioned as "ECPAT" per sources and WP:COMMONNAME. 179.49.5.119 (talk) 14:16, 14 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:09, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging Lithopsian, who requested the move to the current name in back in 2019. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Now you're testing my memory! My move request back in 2019 was to support the then-current name of (apparently) ECPAT International and to end an edit war involving cut'n'paste moves to that name. Nobody opposed that request. I agree that the name in use now *may* be simply ECPAT (see reference 1). I have reverted the recent edit by the OP to a name that I thought was made up, but does actually appear to have been the name the organisation used in 1990. The reference that came along with that change explains some of the naming history and appears to support ECPAT as the current name, but does use "ECPAT International" in one section at bottom right. Also note the copyright shown as "© 2024 ECPAT International". Lithopsian (talk) 16:38, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.