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GA Reassessment

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As part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles' Project quality task force, I am re-reviewing this article to ensure compliance with current good article criteria. I have determined that it doesn't meet criteria for the reasons outlined below and needs a bit of work if it is to retain its status.

  • The main issue I see here is one of referencing. Specifically, there are no references whatsoever in the "Gameplay" section and parts of "Sales" need refs.
  • "E.T. is also notable for being the first video game to credit a graphics artist, with the initials of E.T.'s artist, Jerome Domurat, being hidden as an Easter egg. Howard Scott Warshaw also had his initials hidden as an Easter egg.[6]" That's a bit of a random bit of trivia that either needs to be folded somewhere, fleshed out in another paragraph, or cut altogether.
  • There are lots of one to two line paragraphs that like the example above need to be rearranged, beefed up or cut.
  • There are too many non-free images that don't meet the criteria WP:NFCC. For example as currently used File:ET2600-Pit.gif is entirely decorative. File:ET2600-TheBestPart.png is too high a resolution.
  • The second main issue is that of bias. As noted on the talk page (and now in the article, albeit in a strange fashion) there are really only more modern reviews of the game. The reception needs to be beefed up with contemporary accounts.

I am putting the article on hold for seven days, or longer if good efforts are made to addressing the above. Please appraise me of developments at my talk or on this subpage. Thanks, Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 20:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not certain if I can address all the issues in a timely manner, but I'll see what I can do. (Guyinblack25 talk 22:18, 17 September 2009 (UTC))[reply]
I just revised the "Gameplay" section and added some refs. - RUL3R*trolling*vandalism 18:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, now "sales" is fixed too. Any comments? - RUL3R*trolling*vandalism 18:44, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Rul3r- The copy edits are just what the doctor ordered, but the player review from GameSpot and Loot Ninja review don't meet WP:RS. I'll try give the article a sweep later this week and see if I can add some citations too.
David- In response to the images, I recommend that File:ET2600-TheBestPart.png be removed as a title screen doesn't say much in my opinion. I think File:ET2600-Pit.gif could be moved to the "Reception", because I remember a few reviewers discussing the pits. Since it's also a common gameplay element, I think there's cause to include it. That'll trim down the non-free images and give the current ones better context. Any thoughts? (Guyinblack25 talk 15:09, 21 September 2009 (UTC))[reply]
Sounds like a plan. As long as you can defend your picks and do so in the rationales I don't care which ones you keep. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 15:16, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Guy - I have just removed the dubious sources. Fragmaster seems to satisfy most of the statements made. Haven't found a source for levitation though. I'll keep looking. - RUL3R*trolling*vandalism 18:59, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
David- I've dug up sources for the article, but I was unable to find any actual reviews from the 1980s. The best I could find was mention of an October 1982 Newsweek article praising Atari's procurement of the video game license. I don't have the article though, just an article that mentions the article. :-\
Could we trouble you to do a search for news article that may have commented on the game's quality? (Guyinblack25 talk 14:59, 25 September 2009 (UTC))[reply]
Send me an email and I'll reply back with whatever I can find. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 04:23, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question about sources- how vital do you think the content from the archived Beep Bop Boop interview and The A.V. Club's interview is? Should these refs be removed or can they stay? I'm still looking for other sources to see if that content can be replaced, but I'm running out of places to look.

Also, has the article progressed enough to close the GAR? (Guyinblack25 talk 19:36, 29 September 2009 (UTC))[reply]

I'll take a look tomorrow, I've got classes tonight and won't be able to give it my full attention. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 21:13, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree with closing the GAR. There might even be grounds for another FA nomination. - RUL3R*trolling*vandalism 20:19, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There's talk of partially merging Atari video game burial to this article and the North American video game crash of 1983. Any issues? The only thing that comes to mind is where should the image go. This article already has three fair use images. (Guyinblack25 talk 14:48, 1 October 2009 (UTC))[reply]
Doesn't seem like there's much need of it period; it's an unintelligible mess that doesn't add much comprehension (I think reader's imagination will result in more edification than that image.) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 15:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Finally took care of that BeepBopBoop reference. The prose could use some more polishing, but I think the article is as good as I can make it. Is it enough to close the GAR? (Guyinblack25 talk 19:32, 14 October 2009 (UTC))[reply]

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