Talk:Dunrobin Castle

Dunrobin Castle has been listed as one of the Art and architecture good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: January 28, 2014. (Reviewed version).

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Rosiestep (talk · contribs) 02:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this one in the next few days. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Citations are discouraged in the lead section.

Has been moved to history

Needs to be expanded with a bit re: architecture, school, museum, etc.

Done - unless you think more is needed?

"...most of the present building is the work of Sir Charles Barry, the architect of the Palace of Westminster" - of/of/of/of

Reworded.

An image caption states "A vista from the house includes the gardens and the sea" - which 'sea' should be addressed in the lead

I've made Dornoch Firth clearer.

History

"... with unusual vaulted ceilings." - what makes them unusual?

I really don't know, to be honest. Canmore, ref 2, describes them as such in quite a prominent fashion, so I thought it was important.

It is their number which is unusual, i.e. that there was a vault on every floor. Normally only the basement would be a vault, with the upper storeys having suspended timber floors. Have clarified this. Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 14:35, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"In the 17th century, the keep was extended with the addition of a large house, built around a courtyard to the south-west." - Not a fan of a 1 sentence paragraph; perhaps expand it or merge it?

Done (by Jonathan)

"the 17th Earl..."; "the 18th earl..." - caps?

I'm not quite sure which it should be - I'll find a similar article and go by that. Different sources seem to do it differently.

It's now upper case in all but one, where lower case is correct.

"The Gordons quickly recaptured the castle, and captured Alexander and placed his head on a spear on top of the castle tower." - bit clumsy

Reworded.

"Between 1835 and 1850 Sir Charles Barry remodelled the castle into the Scottish Baronial style for 2nd Duke of Sutherland." - add 'the' before '2nd'

Done.

"Between 1835 and 1850"; "In 1915"; "Since 1973" - add comma after year per MOS:COMMA

Done.

Image caption: "Entrance (west) front of Dunrobin Castle" - bit clumsy

Photos redone.

boarding school - name?

There's tons of info at http://www.dunrobinschool.co.uk/ if you think more would be good. I'll add it as an EL in the meantime.

Architecture

"There are 189 rooms within the house, making it the largest house in the northern Highlands." - house/house; re-word?
wl - parterres

Gardens expanded

"In the entrance hall is a frieze of armorials of the old earls of Sutherland." - bit cluncky

Reworded

16th and 17th-century; eighteenth-century - doesn't need the hyphen; also "eighteenth" should be 18th

Fixed.

header - consider changing it to "Architecture and fittings" as the content addresses books, portraits, chairs, etc.

"Interior" is now subheading.

gardens - the gardens/grounds appear to be extensive per the image so suggest addressing them in their own section

Done.

Present use

I'm not sure if this is a necessary section vs. incorporating the various sentences into the other sections.
museum - Mention in the lead

Done.

gardens - They're mentioned here, too, but again, I think gardens/grounds/courtyard would be better handled in a separate section, i.e. "Grounds"

Headings are now much more logical.

References

Reflist|2 would be an alternative to all the white space.

Done

The article needs a bit of work so I'll put this on hold for the usual 7 days. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:24, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality:

B. MoS compliance:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources:

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Nicely done! --Rosiestep (talk) 02:56, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review. James^x12345 16:07, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Inclusion in Haunted Category

This article is currently in Category:Reportedly haunted locations in Scotland, but as far as I can see there is no reference to any ghosts or other paranormal activity associated with Dunrobin Castle in this article. Therefore I think it should be taken out of the category unless someone can add material from reliable sources that show there have been claims of hauntings associated with the Castle. Dunarc (talk) 20:52, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

For the above reasons, I have now removed the article from this category. It can always be put back in if anything relevant is added to the article.Dunarc (talk) 19:24, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Should I include or refer to?

Punch Magazine dated June 1908 runs a short item stating, "A certain American plutocrat who has amassed his wealth in a very questionable way, is about to retire from business, and it is said that, attracted by the name, he has made the Duke of Sutherland a tempting offer for Dunrobin Castle". (Sounds a bit like D. Trump, but generations earlier!) FiSt71 (talk) 18:58, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]