Talk:Dungaree (fabric)

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Disagree with the proposed deletion

There is plenty of scope for an article here; what made this fabric different enough from other Indian fabrics that it was renowned in its day and the name is used even today. Importantly: how is is different from denim?

This is just a stub -- a proposal to delete within hours is beyond 'negative'; please help expand it. quota (talk) 16:16, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad to see it expanded and de-PRODded. In its original stub state there were no references, no {{under construction}} template, no indication that anyone had any intention of making it more than the straightforward dictionary definition it was at that point. PROD gives it a week to be improved before being considered for deletion, and was appropriate given the then state of the stub, which I came across while stub-sorting. PamD 17:10, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have expanded it a bit, feel free to improve.Petter Bøckman (talk) 11:33, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

quote: denim was made from uncoloured yarn and only coloured after weaving

This disagrees with the explanation for why denim is darker on one side than the other (in the article on denim). That explanation says that the weave exposes the dyed warp more on one side than the other. DHR (talk) 17:29, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

False cognate?

I realize there is always the possibility of false cognate out there, but it seems a bit much to (uh) swallow to discover that the word dungaree derives from a Hindi word for the material. Yet the word dung derives from Middle or Old English for manure. And farmers wore dungarees to shovel manure since the 19th century. Surely one of these "derivations" is incorrect. Student7 (talk) 19:17, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any good sources for "dungaree" having etymological roots in "dung"? According to Webster, "dungaree" is Hindi or Urdu, "dung" comes from Old English/Norse dyngja (which is still the Scandinavian word for a dung heap). Petter Bøckman (talk) 22:48, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Either this is a false cognate, which you are not saying, or somebody invented one of these etymological roots! Nearly every definition that is found is a mirror site of some other. "Proof" is lacking. We can probably get someone to verify the Hindi roots. The Old German a bit harder to research. Student7 (talk) 23:58, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2/2 twill?

Both Tortora & Merkel (1996-01-10). Fairchild's Dictionary of Textiles (7th ed.). New York: Fairchild Publications. ISBN 9780870057076, "dunhgaree" (page 189) and the Textile Institute's Textile terms and definitions say that dungaree is a 2/1 or 3/1 twill. Does anyone have a source for 2/2? - PKM (talk) 22:14, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]