Talk:Dune (1984 soundtrack)
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On 4 March 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Dune (Original Soundtrack Recording). The result of the discussion was Moved to Dune (1984 soundtrack). |
Toto album
[edit]Toto album? I think this is more of a soundtrack and does not belong in the Toto discography —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.166.137.32 (talk) 16:41, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Agreed thoroughly - this wasn't entirely their work, and the cover of the album doesn't credit them as sole artist. I'm going to go ahead and remove it from the discography sidebar, and put it into a separate section in the main discography article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carefree Highway (talk • contribs) 04:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
The origin of the Dune main theme
[edit]I was watching the "Stockholm Syndrome" segment on the Daily Show for April 21-22 and they played a song in the opening that has nearly (if not) the same melody as the Dune Main Theme. However, based on the arrangement I am pretty sure it's not from the movie. Does anyone know what this song is? I'm pretty sure Toto used it to derive the Main Theme.
This isn't that uncommon for movie soundtracks, see Willow and Robert Schumann's 3rd Symphony. --122.26.114.136 (talk) 01:57, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure about this, but isn't the theme from Dune "Terminal frost" by Pink Floyd (ot the other way around)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.231.153.47 (talk) 02:04, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
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Requested move 4 March 2024
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved to Dune (1984 soundtrack). There is a consensus to move to the alternate proposed title. – robertsky (talk) 02:58, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Dune (soundtrack) → Dune (Original Soundtrack Recording) – WP:NATURALDAB -- use the title found on the album cover for this 1984 album. There being the subtopic Dune (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) located at the other article for the 2021 film. The current title should be an index for all the soundtracks for the Dune franchise, there being these two, Dune: Part Two (soundtrack) 2024 album, and the other two 2021 soundtrack albums The Art and Soul of Dune and The Dune Sketchbook -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 23:42, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:ALBUMDAB. Note that Dune (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) is a redirect, not an article, therefore the album with the article is automatically assumed to be the primary topic with no further disambiguation needed. Dune: Part Two (soundtrack) is unambiguous. 162 etc. (talk) 16:59, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- There are such things as WP:PRIMARYREDIRECTs, so the subtopic in a different article can be a primary topic for the particular term, or can dispute the primarity of an article. Thus, the 1984 soundtrack is not undisputibly the primary topic, there being a reasonable and likely chance the 2021 soundtracks are more primary. And the 2021 film was a hit, while the 1984 film was a flop. -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 06:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- WP:ALBUMDAB does in fact automatically make an article primary ahead of a redirect. "Unless more than one article about albums of the same name exist, there is no need to disambiguate any further." This is longstanding consensus, and I don't see a need to deviate from it here. 162 etc. (talk) 16:17, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- There are such things as WP:PRIMARYREDIRECTs, so the subtopic in a different article can be a primary topic for the particular term, or can dispute the primarity of an article. Thus, the 1984 soundtrack is not undisputibly the primary topic, there being a reasonable and likely chance the 2021 soundtracks are more primary. And the 2021 film was a hit, while the 1984 film was a flop. -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 06:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose They're ... both non-NATURAL? InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:59, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- They both use the undertitle... "Original Motion Picture Soundtrack" undertitle and "Original Soundtrack Recording" undertitle as shown in their respective album covers... so seems to fit NATURALDAB -- though we could convert the parentheses into colons Dune: Original Soundtrack Recording and Dune: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack -- I was suggesting a title to match the existing bluelink for the 2021 album -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 06:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- The point is, it's already parenthetically disambiguated, so we wouldn't want to make the disambiguation even longer per WP:CONCISE. InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:36, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Though I would support moving this to Dune (1984 soundtrack) and Music of Dune (2021 film) to Dune (2021 soundtrack). "Soundtrack" just means the music of a film, not necessarily a soundtrack album. InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:39, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Dune (1984 soundtrack) is acceptable to me (I am the nominator). Since the 2021 article covers 3 different soundtrack albums, it would need to be plural, Dune (2021 soundtracks) -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 07:05, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Music of Dune (2021 film) is not nominated here, and should have its own discussion. See WP:RMCI#Only move involved pages. 162 etc. (talk) 15:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- 162, please do not get so caught up with procedure and formality. If enough participants agree that the other article should be moved as well, someone will add that article to the nomination. There is no need to announce that we can't discuss moving another page here. InfiniteNexus (talk) 20:57, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Music of Dune (2021 film) is not nominated here, and should have its own discussion. See WP:RMCI#Only move involved pages. 162 etc. (talk) 15:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Dune (1984 soundtrack) is acceptable to me (I am the nominator). Since the 2021 article covers 3 different soundtrack albums, it would need to be plural, Dune (2021 soundtracks) -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 07:05, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- They both use the undertitle... "Original Motion Picture Soundtrack" undertitle and "Original Soundtrack Recording" undertitle as shown in their respective album covers... so seems to fit NATURALDAB -- though we could convert the parentheses into colons Dune: Original Soundtrack Recording and Dune: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack -- I was suggesting a title to match the existing bluelink for the 2021 album -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 06:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Move to Dune (1984 soundtrack), current title is ambiguous with Music of Dune (2021 film) § Dune (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack). Hameltion (talk | contribs) 17:56, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Agree with Hameltion about move to Dune (1984 soundtrack). DA1 (talk) 05:27, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Related move request
[edit]An editor has requested that Dune (Dune album) be moved to Dune (1995 album, which may be of interest to editors of this page. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 23:46, 4 March 2024 (UTC)