Talk:Duarte Pacheco Pereira

Sources

This article does not state any source for the "recent research" that shows he discovered Brazil before Colombus. Gdo01 00:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Colombus never discovered Brazil... You mean Pedro Álvares Cabral. The Ogre 16:06, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Oops, I meant America. Gdo01 01:37, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

If you read much about early European exploration of the Americas, you soon learn (much to your weariness) that the Portuguese have claimed to discover everything. Just kept it a secret, or the Lisbon earthquake destroyed all the records, and so on. Mainstream historians buy very little of it. 69.108.230.116 15:13, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

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DUARTE PACHECO PEREIRA wrote in this Book "ESMERALDO SITU ORBIS" his own Discovery of many lands in "Grande Terra Firme" in west in 1498("Great Land in West") in the "WEST"(New World) in 1498, in a Mission for the King Manuel. So, is no any speculation. He spoke and wrote about that - in a clearly sentence. He wrote that was there in 1498 in west on a Continent and Islands, He wrote about longitude and latitude data there and wrote about Natives and "Brazilian wood" which he had found. Before this voyage, He (Duarte Pacheco Pereira) had negociate in Tordesillas in 1494 the Line in west. He was one of the Principal Men in Tordesillas. You believe that a perfect line from Amazonas Delta to "Laguna" infletion in Southern coast and the particular Number of 370 Milles was a "invention of no where" in Tordesillas by the Portuguese?

Remember that Columbus spend two weeks with King John II in Lisbon and Santarém(Val Paraíso) after his first Voyage in 1493 and what the King said to him about a great Mailand in South.

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"Como no terceiro ano de vosso reinado do ano de Nosso Senhor de mil quatrocentos e noventa e oito, donde nos vossa Alteza mandou descobrir a parte ocidental, passando além a grandeza do mar Oceano, onde é achada e navegada uma tam grande terra firme, com muitas e grandes ilhas adjacentes a ela e é grandemente povoada. Tanto se dilata sua grandeza e corre com muita longura, que de uma arte nem da outra não foi visto nem sabido o fim e cabo dela. É achado nela muito e fino brasil com outras muitas cousas de que os navios nestes Reinos vem grandemente povoados."

Chimpanzees

Although the claim about Pereira describing chimpanzees using tools is confirmed by some sources, like this one for example, the only possible description of an ape in Esmeraldo de Situ Orbis (1506) is in Chapter 33 which is about Sierra Leone and where Pereira says:

Here, as well, are wild men, whom the ancients called satyrs. They are covered with hairs almost as coarse as the bristles of a pig; they seem human and lie with their wives after our fashion, but instead of speaking they shout when they are hurt. As they dwell in the fastnesses of this Serra they can rarely be captured except when very young. I omit many other things concerning them in order to avoid prolixity.

It's not entirely clear that Pereira is actually describing a chimpanzee and there is no mention of them using tools. Alansplodge (talk) 16:11, 19 January 2021 (UTC)